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RE: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc
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Bill Page |
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RE: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc |
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Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:27:31 -0500 |
On January 13, 2005 8:36 PM C Y wrote:
>
> --- Bob McElrath <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> > The list of prerequisites for running axiom is huge, and
> > getting worse it seems!
> ...
> > So in the interest of having something people can download
> > that is functional with a minimum of effort, I think axiom
> > (and any help system or hyperdoc) should be decoupled from
> > zope and zwiki. A download (think windoze users here) which
> > included zope, zwiki, latex, ghostscript, python, PIL, gcl,
> > gcc, *and* axiom, is too much, methinks.
>
> Heh - even I agree there. Perhaps it would be best to
> acknowledge the reality that if one wants to take advantage
> of all the vast possibilities of open source software, that's
> going to be at odds with having the full power of the system
> available on all platforms, particularly Windows, as a single
> package. Surely power users who are willing and able to use
> the full web-like setup, instead of just a TeXmacs or Mathematica
> like document interface, would be willing to set it up or at
> the very least boot a live Linux CD loaded with the full set
> of Axiom tools and dependencies.
>
Personally, although I have tried knoppix and some variants on
several occasions I have always been a little disappointed
and frustrated. The problem is that I live in linux about 1/2
the time and windows the other 1/2 and when I boot one of these
"live" things I feel like I am in neither. It's fun to play for
an hour or so but then it goes in the desk draw with all the
other things that once fascinated me but I haven't looked at
for so long that they are now collecting dust. So I am quite
sceptical about the utility of a "live" Axiom/Doyen CD except
as a kind of conference "promotional gimmick".
Let's put the list in the following order and fill it in a
few more:
gcc
/ | \
gcl latex python
/ | | \
/ noweb | zope
/ / | | /
axiom ghostscript PIL zwiki
\ \ | /
\ LatexWiki
\ /
MathAction
Add your favourite text editor and browser and set it all up
in Linux/Unix or Windows.
There. Now that doesn't seem so large and complex does it?
(: At least not if you compare it to the list of capabilities
that this remarkable combination of entirely open source
software provides... :) I am quite sure that this would all
easily fit on one-side of a Cdrom, including documentation.
And of course we can add as many more optional add-on packages
as we want, such as Reduce, Aldor, Maxima, ... eventually all
integrated with a common web interface.
What this gives you a fully web-integrated, collaborative
mathematical research and development, hyper-linked publishing
environment right on your desktop, or even in your pocket (I run
almost all of this on a Zaurus 5600). This is all easily doable
right now for free. I would have given my left arm for something
like this back when I was a student!
Cheers,
Bill Page.
- [Axiom-developer] hyperdoc, Martin Rubey, 2005/01/13
- [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, Martin Rubey, 2005/01/13
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, C Y, 2005/01/13
- [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, root, 2005/01/13
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, Bob McElrath, 2005/01/13
- RE: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, Bill Page, 2005/01/13
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, Bob McElrath, 2005/01/13
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, root, 2005/01/13
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, C Y, 2005/01/13
- RE: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc,
Bill Page <=
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, Martin Rubey, 2005/01/14
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, Bob McElrath, 2005/01/14
- [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, Martin Rubey, 2005/01/14
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, Andrey G. Grozin, 2005/01/14
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, Bertfried Fauser, 2005/01/14
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, root, 2005/01/14
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, C Y, 2005/01/14
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, root, 2005/01/14
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, C Y, 2005/01/14
- RE: [Axiom-developer] Re: hyperdoc, Bill Page, 2005/01/14