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[Axiom-developer] Re: Version numbers
From: |
Bill Page |
Subject: |
[Axiom-developer] Re: Version numbers |
Date: |
Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:02:44 -0400 |
On 6/25/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
...
I do not believe your posting was a waste -- although a patch to
Axiom with equialvent size would have been nice :-) :-)
...
Thank you for comments and I agree with your sentiment above.
Bill Page wrote:
| Since I have been promoting the autoconf style of build process for
| Axiom to Tim for several years, Tim asked me why I did not do this
| work myself. I replied that I was very glad when someone came along
| (Gaby) who was motivated and obviously knew enough about how to do it
| - much more than me! The situation is that really I do not want to be
| doing this kind of development. Since I am not very good at it, it
| wastes my time and there is never enough time. I would very much
| prefer to be an Axiom user/developer who discusses mathematics and
| writes new algebra code for example in category theory and in
| applications to physics. But here I have been stuck for nearly 5 years
| now - just getting to the point where this is becoming possible.
I very much disagree with that view. I too would very much perfer to be
an Axiom user/developer who discusses mathematics and write algebra code for
example in category theory and applications to various fields of
computational science. However, I also realize that I cannot just wish
someone else come and does the dirty job for me so that I can theorize without
getting my hands dirt. I'm not a developer. I'm a mathematician.
I earned my degree in Differential Geometry. I'm highly interested
in computational mathematics. Since *I need tools* and they are lacking, I
have to build them. That is why I have my hands dirt with C++, GCC, Axiom,
etc.
Your point well taken. I realize that what you say is completely true
and applies to many other people on this list. I agree that the
attitude that I displayed in my comment above is *not* a productive
one. Instead I should point out that I have learned a lot about how to
use autoconf from your work on build-improvements. It is not my
intention to simply "just wish that someone else come and does the
dirty job for me" - certainly not at the expense of their own time
which they really wish to devote to something else. Perhaps I can make
some significant contribution in the future. In the mean time I am at
least attempting to test these changes as widely and as often as
possible.
...
| > > > Bill Page wrote:
| > > > (See for example recent revisions submitted by Gaby which he asked
| > > > to revert pending something similar to be done by Tim.)
| >
Bill Page wrote:
| I think Tim's reply to this is very important.
|
| He said that he had planned to work with the change that Gaby had
| submitted and the fact that Gaby later withdrew it was *not* based
| on his request.
That is true: Tim never asked me to back off the change I made.
The complain came from more vocal people who did not take any step in
solving the problem I was attempting to solve. I guess solving the problem
they thought I erroneously solved would have been against the law.
| (Check the mailing list). He said that I should get your facts
| straight when you are making disparaging remarks about him in public.
Is "you" referring to me (Gaby)?
No sorry, that is my grammatical error. I should have written:
He (Tim) said that *I* (Bill) should get my facts straight when I am
making disparaging remarks about him in public.
Bill Page wrote:
| I am very sorry about this. I do hereby state publicly that I was
| wrong about that. I also get the impression that there were more
| people than me who may have gotten the wrong impression about that
| interchange so I am glad that Tim has set the record straight.
...
Regards,
Bill Page.
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- [Axiom-developer] Re: Version numbers, Bill Page, 2007/06/23
- [Axiom-developer] Re: Version numbers, Bill Page, 2007/06/25
- [Axiom-developer] Re: Version numbers, Gabriel Dos Reis, 2007/06/25
- [Axiom-developer] Re: Version numbers,
Bill Page <=
- [Axiom-developer] Re: Version numbers, Ralf Hemmecke, 2007/06/25
- [Axiom-developer] Re: Version numbers, Gabriel Dos Reis, 2007/06/25
[Axiom-developer] Re: problem compiling wh-sandbox revision 571 on Windows, Camm Maguire, 2007/06/18