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bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead


From: Dmitry Gutov
Subject: bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 19:59:13 +0300
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On 17.04.2021 15:55, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

IMO, the default behavior on GNU/Linux (inverting video on the first and
last line of the frame) is horrible (but perhaps less so than an actual
bell),

Hm...  when I try this on Debian/bullseye, it inverts the video on the
two first lines in the frame.  But I seem to recall it working the way
you describe, so perhaps there's differences between various
toolkits/libraries used by Emacs in this area?

Same here. It's either GTK3 build, or its HiDPI support (if you also have a HiDPI screen).

and the default behavior on macOS is too intrusive (but again
perhaps less so than an actual bell).

On MS-Windows, we use a system API that flashes the caption bar of the
selected-frame's window.

Then it sounds like visible-bell should be visible enough on all the
three major systems we support.

From what I see, visible-bell does nothing in 'emacs -nw'.

Not sure how easy that would be to fix.

However, I just noticed that an "emacs -Q" doesn't beep at all on this
machine -- because I've switched off all "alert" beeps in the OS
interface.  So `C-g' just says "Quit" in the echo area, and nothing
else.

So in this instance, defaulting `visible-bell' to "on" would make `C-g'
more intrusive/obnoxious than previously...  which is the opposite
effect than what was originally discussed in this bug report.

Well, we probably do want it to have some effect in general, unless the user has customized is off in some way or another.





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