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Re: Murat's first mutant cube script experiment and preliminary results


From: Joseph Heled
Subject: Re: Murat's first mutant cube script experiment and preliminary results
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 16:24:40 +1300

Some days I am sorry I created the python interface. I will get over it tomorrow.

-Joseph



On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 at 16:14, MK <playbg-rgb@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 1/28/2024 4:29 PM, Joseph Heled wrote:

> I hope you realize you will need hundreds of thousands
> of games, millions maybe, to get statistical significance.

Okay, well, let's try to have a rational conversation
about this. (I won't quote the entire previous post.)

How many hundreds of thousands or millions of games
have you guys ran to determine that the current cube
strategy adopted by all bots and humans (except me),
is indeed the best strategy?

None. Zero. You all believe it "myth-ematically".
(Ha! Aren't I the "monster punster"..? :)

BTW: It's never too late and there is a fairly easy
way of doing this, and won't take long if done in a
spot checking manner for starters. Let me know if
you guys would want to do it and dare the outcome.

Still, I don't mind your asking from me something that
you all haven't asked from yourselves. I'll be glad to
run a hundred thousand games for starters (and more if
needed later). But before I do that, we need to agree
on certain things.

1- Will you trust my results? Probably not. Nobody in
the past openly said that they trusted the results of
my previous experiments. That's why I'm always urging
you guys to run your own tests and sharing my scripts.

2- You and preferably a "statistically significant" ;)
number of credible members of the BG community have to
commit beforehand to what kind of results will convince
you all that the current "cube skill theory" is bogus.

If such a self-destructive mutant cube strategy in this
script wins 5% against GnuBG World-Class, for example,
will it be enough to convince you all? Maybe 10%? More?
You have to name it and commit to it before I start.

I have older spare CPU's that I can run 24/7 for this.
But alternatively and preferably for more reasons than
one, several of you can run shorter sessions concurrently
and accummulate several hundreds of thousands, if not
millions, of games in a matter of a few days, with your
own results that you can trust.

How about it guys...??

BTW: this not the only mutant cube experiment I have in
mind but let's start with this one from the very bottom.

MK


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