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Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black
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Gene Heskett |
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Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly |
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Wed, 3 Jul 2013 16:23:24 -0400 |
On Wednesday 03 July 2013 15:57:31 Sergey Poznyakoff did opine:
> Hi Gene,
>
> There were quite a few mails in the list recently which my schedule
> did not permit me to attend in time, for which I apologize.
>
> > So, now, how do I troubleshoot what your /usr/bin/mail is actually
> > doing with my pecks on the keyboard? Does it keep a logfile
> > someplace?
>
> First of all, let's verify that the binary we are talking about is
> really the mail utility from mailutils (Debian succeded in making such
> a mess of UNUX that one can never be sure what binary one is running).
> So, the first step is to try "mail --version". If it shows "GNU
> Mailutils", then we're at home. Note, however, what version number
> it shows. That might be important.
>
address@hidden:/etc# mail --version
mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1)
> The mailutils implementation of bin/mail never tries to deliver mails
> directly. Instead it uses a transport layer (a "mailer"), which is
> configured via the variable "sendmail" (a misnomer, I readily agree).
Humm, sendmail is not installed, but is being installed, while that is
removing postfix. I thought sendmail was part of every distro? I have
aklso heard that postfix can do the same exact job. If this fixes it, then
obviously postfix is not a universal replacement. Sigh...
> Its default value instructs mail to invoke "/usr/sbin/sendmail
> -t -oi" and to pipe the composed message to its standard input. This
> variable may be redefined either in the site-wide configuration file
> /etc/mail.rc or in the user configuration file ~/.mailrc.
That file DID exist in /etc, an hour ago. With the postfix removal it
seems to have been removed.
> You can
> always check its value by running "set" without arguments from the mail
> shell, or by running
>
> mail -E set </dev/null|grep ^sendmail
As root:
address@hidden:/etc# mail -E set </dev/null|grep ^sendmail
sendmail="sendmail:/usr/sbin/sendmail"
As gene:
address@hidden:~$ mail -E set </dev/null|grep ^sendmail
sendmail="sendmail:/usr/sbin/sendmail"
No diff there.
> To see what is going on when mail is invoked, set the variable
> "verbose" to true. To do so, add the following line to either
> address@hidden:/etc# mail -E set </dev/null|grep ^sendmail
> set verbose
>
> or use the option -E "set verbose" when invoking mail, e.g.
>
> mail -E "set verbose" address@hidden
And, with sendmail installed, I was able to send me a message using the
above syntax, Yippee!
debug output was:
address@hidden:~$ mail -E "set verbose" address@hidden
Cc:
Subject: Third test of local mail delivery sent to me as me
Now is the time yadda yadda
DEBUG: sendmail (/usr/sbin/sendmail)
DEBUG: exec /usr/sbin/sendmail argv: /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -t
DEBUG: Sending headers...
DEBUG: Header: To: <address@hidden>
DEBUG: Header: Subject: Third test of local mail delivery sent to me as me
DEBUG: Header: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1)
DEBUG: Header:
DEBUG: Sending body...
DEBUG: /usr/sbin/sendmail exited with: 0
Which looks fairly normal to me. It looks as if sendmail was the magic
twanger.
So from root, su - amanda, and send another msg, works just as well. I
think we've pieced this puzzle together now.
Thank you very much Sergey, Jordi and everybody.
Cheers, Gene
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- [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly, Gene Heskett, 2013/07/02
- Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly, Jordi Mallach, 2013/07/02
- Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly, Gene Heskett, 2013/07/02
- Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly, Gene Heskett, 2013/07/03
- Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly, Jordi Mallach, 2013/07/03
- Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly, Gene Heskett, 2013/07/03
- Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly, Sergey Poznyakoff, 2013/07/03
- Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly,
Gene Heskett <=
- Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly, Gene Heskett, 2013/07/04
- Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly, Sergey Poznyakoff, 2013/07/04
- Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly, Sergey Poznyakoff, 2013/07/04
- Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly, Gene Heskett, 2013/07/04
- Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly, Gene Heskett, 2013/07/04
- Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly, Sergey Poznyakoff, 2013/07/04
- Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly, Gene Heskett, 2013/07/04
- Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly, Sergey Poznyakoff, 2013/07/05
- Re: [bug-mailutils] Mail, sends to dead.letter once in a while, to black hole mostly, Gene Heskett, 2013/07/05