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Re: Emacs i18n
From: |
Mattias Engdegård |
Subject: |
Re: Emacs i18n |
Date: |
Mon, 25 Mar 2019 11:52:45 +0100 |
24 mars 2019 kl. 22.55 skrev Juri Linkov <address@hidden>:
>
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-03/msg00586.html
> is pushed to master, ngettext is available to use for pluralization.
That patch exposes some Emacs-specific translation problems:
- (cons (format "finished with %d matches found\n"
grep-num-matches-found)
+ (cons (format (ngettext "finished with %d match found\n"
+ "finished with %d matches found\n"
+ grep-num-matches-found)
+ grep-num-matches-found)
This is fine -- typical i18n code (except that the subject of the sentence is
missing, which should go into a comment to translators).
;; remove match from grep-regexp-alist before fontifying
("^Grep[/a-zA-Z]* started.*"
(0 '(face nil compilation-message nil help-echo nil mouse-face nil) t))
- ("^Grep[/a-zA-Z]* finished with \\(?:\\(\\(?:[0-9]+ \\)?matches
found\\)\\|\\(no matches found\\)\\).*"
+ ("^Grep[/a-zA-Z]* finished with \\(?:\\(\\(?:[0-9]+ \\)?match\\(?:es\\)?
found\\)\\|\\(no matches found\\)\\).*"
Since it is not uncommon in Emacs to pattern-match on generated text, either
the translator needs to understand regexps well or the code must be
restructured to avoid that kind of matching, perhaps by using text properties.
Besides, translating regexp strings precludes the use of modern regexp
notations like rx, since gettext is string-oriented.
Of course the patch was just a proof-of-concept and not intended as actual
code. Please forgive me for using it to make a point.
This is also not an argument against using gettext. Quite the contrary; it's
the obvious way to go if i18n is to be undertaken at all.
- Re: Emacs i18n, (continued)
- Re: Emacs i18n, Jean-Christophe Helary, 2019/03/26
- Re: Emacs i18n, Juri Linkov, 2019/03/26
- Re: Emacs i18n, Paul Eggert, 2019/03/26
- Re: Emacs i18n, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/03/24
- Re: Emacs i18n, Jean-Christophe Helary, 2019/03/25
- Re: Emacs i18n, Juri Linkov, 2019/03/25
- Re: Emacs i18n, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/03/25
- Re: Emacs i18n, Richard Stallman, 2019/03/27
- Re: Emacs i18n,
Mattias Engdegård <=
- Re: Emacs i18n, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/03/25
- Re: Emacs i18n, Juri Linkov, 2019/03/25
- Re: Emacs i18n, Mattias Engdegård, 2019/03/25
- Re: Emacs i18n, Juri Linkov, 2019/03/27
- Re: Emacs i18n, Mattias Engdegård, 2019/03/28
Re: Emacs i18n (was: bug#34520: delete-matching-lines should report how many lines it deleted), Richard Stallman, 2019/03/03