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Re: State of the GNUnion 2020
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Samuel Thibault |
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Re: State of the GNUnion 2020 |
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Fri, 21 Feb 2020 22:55:04 +0100 |
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Alexandre François Garreau, le ven. 21 févr. 2020 12:39:37 +0100, a ecrit:
> It is defeatist because it departs from the basic idea you’ll *have* to
> exclude someone at some point. No solution will ever be found.
Yes. Been there a few times, had to resort to it, I remember a case
where it was after a couple of *years* trying with others to find a
solution.
> And rather than taking the risk of not reacting immediately
> (“tolerance zero”, another right wing thing)
I never said reaction had to be immediate.
> you prefer to “aknowledge” this “will have to be done at some
> point”. Is if there wasn’t any middle ground for compromision
> there.
Sometimes you can't find any.
> The idea of shared kill/blacklist or /ignore have been already proposed.
> That solves it.
Not necessarily for less strong people. Just leaving out is simpler than
having to yet again set up some filters and everything.
> It is paternalist because it assumes *the chiefs* have to take care for
> “uncomfort” and “stuff people couldn’t stand”.
In my book, parts of chiefs' role is making sure people are comfortable,
yes.
> It always will be, because “excluding” these “toxic” people won’t make
> them disappear away, they always will be somewhere.
Possibly, unfortunately. That said, sometimes some people are only toxic
in a given situation, and just excluding them from it avoids the issue.
> Now, in the previous case, with no exclusions, these people who learnt to
> stand anything could, as soon as there is no official exclusion, participate
> in anything, that is good.
Sure. But not everybody can (I'm not sure anybody can really in all
situations).
Samuel
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, (continued)
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Ruben Safir, 2020/02/23
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Samuel Thibault, 2020/02/20
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Dmitry Gutov, 2020/02/20
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Samuel Thibault, 2020/02/20
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Dmitry Gutov, 2020/02/20
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Samuel Thibault, 2020/02/20
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2020/02/20
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Samuel Thibault, 2020/02/20
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Andreas R., 2020/02/20
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Alexandre François Garreau, 2020/02/22
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020,
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- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Alexandre François Garreau, 2020/02/22
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Samuel Thibault, 2020/02/22
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Alexandre François Garreau, 2020/02/22
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Samuel Thibault, 2020/02/22
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Alexandre François Garreau, 2020/02/22
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Dmitry Gutov, 2020/02/24
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Samuel Thibault, 2020/02/24
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Alexandre François Garreau, 2020/02/24
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Samuel Thibault, 2020/02/25
- Re: State of the GNUnion 2020, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2020/02/25