Re: Discuss support for the linux kernel's EFI Handover Protocol on x86 and ARM

[Leif Lindholm]

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 09:59:38AM +0100, Alexander Graf wrote:
> > Am 10.01.2019 um 09:12 schrieb Michael Chang <address@hidden>:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > With the advent of new verifier framework and shim lock protocol support
> > to the grub's community, we are driving to the world of UEFI Secure
> > Boot, well, almost ..
> > 
> > There is a missing piece in the puzzle remaining, that is booting linux
> > kernel via it's own EFI Handover Protocol's entry. Strictly speaking,
> > the interface is not part of the UEFI Secure Boot, but we have to use it
> > to avoid problem of using UEFI LoadImage Protocol, which will not work
> > with shim and it's Machine Owner Key (MOK) as they are not part of
> > firmware's KEK and db.
> 
> So really dumb question here: What if we didn't use the MS key? What
> if instead, we just provide a SUSE/openSUSE key and give customers
> the ability to sign their own grub+Linux binaries?
> 
> Then we would only need to lobby with platform vendors to include
> our public key in the delivered Keystore in parallel and everything
> would "just work".
> 
> The only reason shim needs to provide its own key management is that
> on most x86 systems, we (and customers) don't have control over the
> keystore, right? We can just push to not have that problem on ARM.

Sure. That's a valid (and I think Ard would say preferable) decision,
and should "just work" with upstream GRUB. But that's for each distro
to decide.

> Am I missing anything?

As I understand it, there was a concern with the wording in UEFI
2.(3?, 4?) that made it possible to interpret it such that only one key
had to be supported.

It all comes down to who wants to make sure the key is already in
shipped systems..

/
    Leif