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Re: [Gzz] REPOST: PEG: Alter Canvas2D vocab to support transclusions
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Tuomas Lukka |
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Re: [Gzz] REPOST: PEG: Alter Canvas2D vocab to support transclusions |
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Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:26:42 +0300 |
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On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 10:34:14PM +0300, Matti Katila wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Benja Fallenstein wrote:
> > Matti Katila wrote:
> >> On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Benja Fallenstein wrote:
> >>>The failure of taking this into account means that there cannot
> >>>be transclusions of a node, i.e. one node cannot be placed
> >>>on multiple papers; in Fenfire, transclusion must be supported
> >>>for *anything*, i.e., whenever some thing is in a "context,"
> >>>it must be possible to place it in more than one context.
> >>>
> >>>In order to make nodes transcludable, the vocabulary
> >>>must be changed.
> >>
> >> Making clones is something what I wouldn't do in word-processing.
> >> Same with pictures. If you are talkking about mindmap thing we should not
> >> mess it up with canvas2d which is "making notes" - not "making clone
> >> notes".
> >>
> >> If you really want to do clones, you also need to make a new api for it
> >> (similar like ppactions) because pp should not do a such thing.
> >>
> >> CanvasView2D can be programmed to render also these clone notes.
> >
> >
> > We have discussed this at length on IRC, without coming to an agreement.
> > Here's my summary (keep in mind that it's from *my* POV):
> >
> > - Mudyc agrees that transclusion of nodes is needed for some things,
> > e.g. mindmapping, but not for some other applications of 2D canvases,
> > such as 'general "text"'.
>
> And my biggest point is that user should recognize if node is clone or
> not, on canvas.
Actually, one thing I recently realized is that clones are dangerous,
*if* the user interface doesn't show all the other contexts into which
something has been cloned.
If it does, no problem.
Tuomas
- [Gzz] A public demo of the HTTP gateway can be found at: PEG: Alter Canvas2D vocab to support transclusions, Benja Fallenstein, 2003/07/02
- [Gzz] REPOST: PEG: Alter Canvas2D vocab to support transclusions, Benja Fallenstein, 2003/07/02
- Re: [Gzz] REPOST: PEG: Alter Canvas2D vocab to support transclusions, Matti Katila, 2003/07/03
- Re: [Gzz] REPOST: PEG: Alter Canvas2D vocab to support transclusions, Benja Fallenstein, 2003/07/03
- Re: [Gzz] REPOST: PEG: Alter Canvas2D vocab to support transclusions, Matti Katila, 2003/07/06
- Re: [Gzz] REPOST: PEG: Alter Canvas2D vocab to support transclusions, Benja Fallenstein, 2003/07/06
- Re: [Gzz] REPOST: PEG: Alter Canvas2D vocab to support transclusions, Asko Soukka, 2003/07/06
- Re: [Gzz] REPOST: PEG: Alter Canvas2D vocab to support transclusions, Benja Fallenstein, 2003/07/06
- Re: [Gzz] REPOST: PEG: Alter Canvas2D vocab to support transclusions, Asko Soukka, 2003/07/07
- Re: [Gzz] REPOST: PEG: Alter Canvas2D vocab to support transclusions,
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