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Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces |
Date: |
Wed, 20 Feb 2019 21:36:52 +0200 |
> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 12:18:21 -0700
> From: Bob Proulx <bob@proulx.com>
>
> If Mailman disables a subscriber due to bounces then later (due to a
> nightly cron?) Mailman sends a notice to the recipient that their
> subscription has been suspended
First, until that cron job runs, the victim could miss quite a lot of
messages. And second, I wouldn't be surprised if that notification
went straight to the spam folder, the way it's formatted.
> > IMO, it would be prudent if people who oversee GNU lists and
> > configure mailman could do something to prevent this automatic
> > blocking, because it makes no sense to me: why do we care so much
> > about a bounced message?
>
> Bounce messages are the only way to detect that subscribers fall off
> the planetary network.
That's true, but why disable their delivery on the first such message?
Why not wait until there are, say, a dozen of them? A small number of
bounced messages means a temporary problem, which doesn't justify such
drastic measures, IMO.
> Sure some addresses are only temporarily undeliverable. That's why
> Mailman uses rate limits. Normally if there is a bounce or two it
> doesn't do anything other than bounce those individual messages. It
> is only when there are many that something must be wrong and delivery
> is suspended.
It does? I certainly don't see that. IME, a single bounced message
causes a user's mail delivery to be disabled. What did I miss?
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, (continued)
Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Scott Randby, 2019/02/18
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/02/18
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Kaushal Modi, 2019/02/18
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Scott Randby, 2019/02/19
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/02/19
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Bob Proulx, 2019/02/19
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/02/19
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Bob Proulx, 2019/02/20
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Bob Proulx, 2019/02/20
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/02/21
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Robert Pluim, 2019/02/21
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Yuri Khan, 2019/02/21
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Robert Pluim, 2019/02/21
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Bob Proulx, 2019/02/21
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Nate Bass, 2019/02/23
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Bob Proulx, 2019/02/23
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Vasilii Kolobkov, 2019/02/23
- Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces, Eric Abrahamsen, 2019/02/23