LYNX-DEV Re[3]: Page that makes Lynx crash

[Klaus Weide]

On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Mark Gaither wrote:

> Klaus Weide <address@hidden> wrote:
> > On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Jean-Pierre Chevalier wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > However, with 
> >   [X] Show Formatted Output
> > checked, it indeed generates the (invalid) output quoted further above.
> > Bad Webtechs...
> > 
> 
>       *Free* WebTechs out of the kindness of your little ol hearts.

Ok, and its is appreciated.  So retroactively consider that sentence
amended with a smiley, please.
 
> > Just for fun, I fed Webtechs' ouput (as captured on your page at
> >      <URL: http://www.nyx.net/~jchevali/form2.html>
> > back to Webtechs, and it was not too happy with it...
> > That seems to be partially due to errors in errors in your original
> > page (the HTML text of which is included in the output of the first
> > run of the validator), partially due to the fact that you introduced
> > linebreaks when you transferred the output of the first run of the 
> > validator to http://www.nyx.net/~jchevali/form2.html, and partially
> > due to Webtechs' introduction of <A NAME="lineNNN">NNN.</A> at the
> > beginning of each input lines when [X] Show Formatted Output is
> > checked.
> > 
> > > I went and tried  `Lynx/2.6  libwww-FM/2.14'  and yes,
> > > it also crash.  Just that it does when it reachs the
> > > specific page, rather than right after loading, as
> > > the older versions did.  I wonder what is in there...
> > 
> > I already quoted to you "what's in there", and you can easily see it for
> > yourself.
> > 
> > Anyway, maybe the validator should not create invalid HTML (and it
> > appears that it would do that even on valid documents with the 
> > [X] Show Formatted Output setting).  
> > [Therefore cc'ed to address@hidden
> 
>       Invalid HTML was fed into it in the first place. 

Yes, that's not under dispute..

>       We don't 
>       dynamically validate dynamic pages, just the shell HTML document
>       that is used to build the dynamic HTML page. Try feeding
>       chocolate syrup to your auto's engine. Hack, cough, spit, hurl.

I don't see what this has to do with dynamic pages.
Anyway it seems with the Formatted Output option the validator would
insert those named anchors on each line without considering context,
making even valid HTML invalid.
 
>       Did anyone figure out just what was crashing Lynx? Should

I didn't look too closely, but A elements within SELECT seem to
utterly confuse it.  Of course that should be fixed in Lynx (at least to
the extent that it doesn't crash) but that won't help with the countless
old versions around.

>       we make the linkable error messages to named anchors an option?

That might help.  Or a warning that goes with the [x] Show Formatted Output
option, that this may generate invalid HTML (even from valid input) (which
may even crash some browsers, mention Lynx if you must;)).  I leave it
to you how to make that concise enough to fit on your form page. ;)

>       Would this help? We are willing to help in any way.

Again, that is appreciated..  As is your response.
> 
>       Mark Gaither
>       CEO, WebTechs

  Klaus Weide

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