Re: mailing-list problem (Was Re: lynx-dev What happened to MINGW patch? (fwd))

[Frédéric L . W . Meunier]

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Doug Kaufman wrote:

> I, too, have been puzzled about the perceived problems with the
> current list. Can those who advocate changing/moving post a message
> outlining the problems so the rest of us can understand? Is sig.net
> asking us to leave?

1- Nobody (mainly Thomas, the maintainer) has any control over
the mailing-list and archives, hosted respectively by Verio and
FLORA.org.

2- If Verio or FLORA.org go out of business, close, change the
rules, or whatever, we'd have to move anyway.

3- Apparently all e-mails from non subscribers are sent to
/dev/null without any moderation taking place. I know there was
some moderation in the past (I also know some people complained
it was done as a forward with everything quoted), but as I
haven't seen any message from non subscribers in the last 2
years or so, I really doubt there's any actually.

'About Lynx-Dev' states:

"Messages from non-subscribers are not immediately distributed
to avoid spam. Usually, if your message appears genuine, it
will be retrieved from the pile headed for the wastebasket
within a day or so and distributed to the list. For best
results, subscribe as described above."

We point all people to lynx-dev. lynx-dev-contrib is only
mentioned in the same page. Most people don't know it
exists or subscribe to it since the above clearly states
lynx-dev is moderated.

4- The mailing-list archives at FLORA.org are open for spam
harvesters, as they don't hide the addresses.

See what Savannah does -
http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/dvdrtools-devel/2003-12/msg00002.html

You only get the address using "Submit to
http://mail.gnu.org/mp/yyz.py";.

5- The mailing-list archives at FLORA.org are full of spam
which apparently gets sent to lynx-dev-archive at
lists.flora.ottawa.on.ca.

6- I and Victor Schneider
(http://www.flora.org/lynx-dev/html/month022004/msg00039.html)
had problems posting. I don't know what went wrong for him, but
I'm pretty sure 2 messages I sent with an address subscribed to
lynx-dev-contrib didn't go through.

7- With Mailman (used by SourceForge and Savannah) and Listar
(used by http://www.freelists.org/) we don't need a
lynx-dev-contrib. Unlike Majordomo, the software provides nice
features, one of which lets the user configure if he wants to
receive e-mail. He can go on vacation and just disable it. No
need to unsubscribe and resubscribe when he comes back.

8- This is the third and last time I take place on a thread
about a possible move. Hope we do :-)

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