Re: [Lynx-dev] Missing link on lynx.invisible-island.net

[Johnson, Tracy]

I get the same feeling when linkedin asks me if I want to connect to someone 
whom I know has died some years back.

This happens more frequently as I get older.

Tracy Johnson
+00 1 757 766-4318 tel
+00 1 757 755-6470 mobile
Hampton, Virginia, U.S.
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> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:41:01AM +0000, Ian Collier wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 07:47:16AM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> > > On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 09:21:26AM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> > > > according to
> > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=879991
> > > > there points a link in documentation to nowhere.
> >
> > > I pointed out that it's a problem with the package, not the upstream
> source.
> >
> > The Lynx source does not build cattoc.html unless configure was run
> > with --enable-htmlized-cfg - but by default that setting is disabled,
> > in which case the Lynx_users_guide.html that it produces contains a
> > broken link.  I'd say that is an issue with the upstream source.
> 
> Thanks for that hint.
> 
> For privacy reasons many binary distributions don't like remote startup
> pages, etc. and change them to local links. So do we by patching lynx.cfg.
> 
> But if cattoc.html (and maybe other files) is just built with that configure
> option (which we currently don't use), it's understandable if instead a link
> to the upstream website is used.
> 
> So I checked where this link comes from in the (unpatched and unbuilt)
> 2.8.9dev16 sources:
> 
>   $ git grep breakout
>   lynx.cfg:# is available at http://lynx.invisible-
> island.net/release/breakout/lynx_help/cattoc.html
>   lynx_help/Lynx_users_guide.html:  "http://lynx.invisible-
> island.net/release/breakout/lynx_help/cattoc.html">
>   lynx_help/Lynx_users_guide.html:  "http://lynx.invisible-
> island.net/release/breakout/lynx_help/alphatoc.html">
>   lynx_help/lynx_help_main.html:    "http://lynx.invisible-
> island.net/release/breakout/lynx_help/cattoc.html">
>   lynx_help/lynx_help_main.html:    "http://lynx.invisible-
> island.net/release/breakout/docs/">lynx
>   makefile.in:LYNX_URL='@address@hidden/breakout'
> 
> The URL argued about in the bug report is http://lynx.invisible-
> island.net/release/breakout/lynx_help/cattoc.html
> 
> So this URL indeed is part of the unmodified upstream sources.
> 
> http://lynx.invisible-island.net/release/breakout/lynx_help/ shows quite
> some files, but not cattoc.html. But it lists http://lynx.invisible-
> island.net/release/breakout/lynx_help/Lynx_users_guide.html
> and that also contains those links "by category" and "by alphabet".
> But it's even worse there: They point to those two URLs where the hostname
> no more exists:
> 
>   http://lynx.isc.org/release/breakout/lynx_help/cattoc.html
>   http://lynx.isc.org/release/breakout/lynx_help/alphatoc.html
> 
> This probably comes from the fact that this is not from a development
> release but an rather old stable release. But http://lynx.invisible-
> island.net/current/breakout/ doesn't exist. So I went to
> http://lynx.invisible-island.net/lynx_help/ and clicked on "Online
> Documentation" in the left menu (http://lynx.invisible-
> island.net/lynx_help/). But I just got "Forbidden — You don't have
> permission to access /lynx_help/ on this server."
> 
> Thomas: So for me it looks as if Elimar and Ian are right: This looks like
> broken literal links in the upstream code and the included prebuilt
> documentation as well as in the online documentation. It would be nice if
> you could have a closer look at these issues. Thanks in advance!
> 
>                 Kind regards, Axel
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