[Savannah-hackers-public] [task #7920] emacs-pretest-bug no longer exists

[Joshua Ginsberg]

Follow-up Comment #2, task #7920 (project administration):

Zeus --

Perhaps I need to be more explicit.

My name is Joshua Ginsberg, Senior Systems Administrator for the Free
Software Foundation, aka j00bar, jag. I'm filing this on behalf of Richard
Stallman.

In August of 2007, RMS sent to the FSF/GNU sysadmins:

====BEGIN====
Subject:        emacs-pretest-bugs
Date:   Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:52:08 -0400
To:     address@hidden
From:   Richard Stallman <address@hidden>

Can you please turn emacs-pretest-bugs into an alias for emacs-devel?

Please don't throw away the current definition of emacs-pretest-bugs.
Please keep it in case we decide, in a few weeks to change it back.

Please ack when done.
====END====

I handled this request and responded:

====BEGIN====
Subject:        emacs-pretest-bugs
Date:   Mon, Aug 13 2007 11:45:43 -0400
To:     address@hidden
From:   address@hidden

This has all been completed. I concluded you meant emacs-pretest-bug,
not emacs-pretest-bugs (the latter does not exist). The mailing list
configuration has been archived, the archives are still available, and
the forwarding is done as an alias on fencepost.

-jag
====END====

In the recent days, RMS has requested:

====BEGIN====
Subject:        address@hidden: No such list emacs-pretest-bug]
Date:   Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:55:40 -0400
To:     address@hidden
From:   Richard Stallman <address@hidden>

Please arrange for this page to give the right information
(that emacs-pretest-bug has been forwarded).

I reported this in February, I believe.

------- Start of forwarded message -------
Message-ID: <address@hidden>
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:22:57 +0200
From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <address@hidden>
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Emacs Devel <address@hidden>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Subject: No such list emacs-pretest-bug

If you click on the header link (the one with a mail picture to the left
of it) for emacs-pretest-bug on

http://savannah.gnu.org/mail/?group_id=40

then you will get a page

http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-pretest-bug

saying "No such list emacs-pretest-bug". The archive link works, but the
list information page gives the same error as above.

I just saw this because I asked a user to join emacs-pretest-bug.
------- End of forwarded message -------
====END====

So I'm now writing you to ask you to please remove that list from that
webpage. If you'd like, I can have RMS write you himself. If you'd like, I can
shell into Savannah and try to figure out how to delete it myself. I thought
I'd try the path of least resistance and simply ask you nicely to remove the
list from that particular page.

As I expressed on IRC, I think both RMS and the entire sysadmin staff were
unaware that Savannah cataloged mailing lists and maintained links to them
like this, and we've been deleting mailing lists from lists.gnu.org for years
now in response to administrator requests. We will in the future refer them to
the support interface for Savannah so they can be removed from Savannah as
well as from lists.gnu.org

Thank you for your assistance in this matter.

-jag

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