[security-discuss] problem 5: GNU's Tor endorsement undermined (was: CloudFlare, not good choice)

[Anonymous]

Mike Gerwitz said:

> > Finally, when Tor is recommended by GNU website, than Tor should
> > be allowed to access each and every GNU software piece.
> 
> This is the proper discussion to be having.
> 
> I agree.  But so far the thread has been so muddied by unrelated
> issues that consideration of this argument is being hampered.

The past 3+ months of discussion (and all threads therein) have all
been tied to the high-level thesis that Tor-blocking mechanisms
(i.e. CloudFlare) should be condemned on GNU projects.

To the extent that this thesis is "the proper discussion" (and it is),
everything that supports that thesis is (quite rightly) on the table.
Jean's premise that "Tor should be allowed to access each and every
GNU software piece" is not just an "argument".  It's the *thesis*; the
same thesis as mine.  And certainly it does not compete with the past
3+ months of discussion, as you imply.  To attack the discussion
itself and the supporting arguments for that same thesis is actually
the "mud" that is hampers the discussion and undermines this thesis.

In addition to the problems outlined here:

  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-system-discuss/2017-03/msg00099.html

Jean Louis has discovered another problem that supports the same
thesis:

  problem 5) Tor is recommended by the GNU website, yet there is a GNU
             project (GNU Radio) that blocks Tor users.

That was a good find.  And indeed, problem 5 is a good discussion to
have, as well as other undefeated arguments supporting the same
thesis.  If problem 5 is the only problem that interests you, then I
suggest you focus on it.

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