Re: [Accessibility] Updating the accessibility statement

[MENGUAL Jean-Philippe]

Hi,

Le 21/01/2020 à 22:22, Dave Hunt a écrit :
> Michael,  I'm glad you are able to attend the upcoming hackfest, and 

Yes, I am glad too, thanks Michael. His presence will be needed. to 
support Hypra effortqs. Yours too, guys: reply to the bugs quoted here 
by Michael, etc Later, according to the hackfest result, we will need a 
commuity eeffort on social network, or crowd funding. So let's prepare 
our community now, the struggle will be hard.

> hope that, with the Hypra folks, We can move forward.

Our hope is firstly to explain to GTK guys why is important to stay 
accessible: what users, what usages, from what state of mind of free 
software, etc. ONce this "culture" accepted, wi can discuss about the 
technical solutions. It is essential to have with us persons like 
Michael or Samuel, as they can debate with GTK, explain what is 
realistic and not, etc. I am awareof the high responsibility we have 
during this hackfest for the future.

> My friends' concern is that the major distributors of GNU/Linux will 
> abandon GTK 3, in favor of GTK 4, before there is accessibility, thus, 
> leaving us stranded.  On first hearing this news, I put Windows 10 onto 
> one of my machines and began exploring its accessibility. However, Slint 
> GNU/Linux remains on my other machine, I still send a little to the FSF 
> every month, and plan to run or assist with an installfest at 
> Libreplanet this year.

Well, let's be calm, guys. If we rely on Debian for example, I think 
GTK3 will be removed in at least five or more years. It will take a long 
to have all apps ihn GTK4 (note some are still in GTK2). The most 
accessible desktop, MATE, is not migrating to GTK4 yet. So in distros 
based on Debian, we really have at least five years of calm. The most 
difficult deadline may be wether the video drivers decide to only do 
drivers for Wayland, because GTK3 does not seem compatible with it. 
Hence the fact I stay careful saying five years and not more.

Five years, it lest time to discuss, fund, developing things. Hypra will 
dedicat all power in this, in support with Orca dev and other community 
devs. If GTK does not goes forward, we can switch to Qt, discussions go 
forward too to make KDE accessible.

So even if the emergency is true given the lack of accessibility culture 
of GTK, lets trust GNU/Linux accessibility, which will be maintained. 
Bet let's prepare a communication struggle and, maybe, a funding effort 
from the community.

regards

> Cheers,
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> On 1/21/20 4:11 PM, Michael P. Gorse wrote:
> > There is a gtk hackfest the week
> > after next where accessibility will be discussed. I will be there for part
> > of it, as will several people from Hypra, so I hope that we'll be able to
> > come to an agreement as to how to move forward.
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