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From: Dylan Reimer
Subject: [Advocate Play Ogg] Re: Contents of Advocate digest
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:03:42 -0400
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Today's Topics:

   1. [Fwd: Re: [Advocacy] persuading mobile phone manufacturers to
      implement Vorbis support] (Matthew Flaschen)
   2. Re: [Fwd: Re: [Advocacy] persuading mobile phone
      manufacturers to implement Vorbis support] (rek2 GNU/Linux LO LO LO)
   3. Re: [Fwd: Re: [Advocacy] persuading mobile phone
      manufacturers to implement Vorbis support] (Alexandro Colorado)
   4. Re: [Fwd: Re: [Advocacy] persuading mobile phone
      manufacturers to implement Vorbis support] (Matthew Flaschen)
   5. Re: [Fwd: Re: [Advocacy] persuading mobile phone
      manufacturers to implement Vorbis support] (Matthew Flaschen)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:30:25 -0400
From: Matthew Flaschen <address@hidden>
Subject: [Advocate Play Ogg] [Fwd: Re: [Advocacy] persuading mobile
        phone manufacturers to implement Vorbis support]
To: address@hidden, address@hidden, PlayOgg <address@hidden>
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These are valid concerns.  Can the FSF please be more responsive to
Xiph's concerns?

Matt Flaschen
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Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:34:23 -0400
From: rek2 GNU/Linux LO LO LO <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Advocate Play Ogg] [Fwd: Re: [Advocacy] persuading
        mobile phone    manufacturers to implement Vorbis support]
To: Matthew Flaschen <address@hidden>
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I 100% agree..

Chris F.


Matthew Flaschen wrote:
These are valid concerns.  Can the FSF please be more responsive to
Xiph's concerns?

Matt Flaschen
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Subject:
Re: [Advocacy] persuading mobile phone manufacturers to implement
Vorbis support
From:
"Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves" <address@hidden>
Date:
Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:04:18 +0100
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I have been asked quite a few times already if we are related with
PlayOgg.  Short answer: no.

I asked for the FSF help last year, and all they have done was this
single page, with a lame banner, scary tactics that don't work because
people don't care, AND IGNORANTLY informing the world that Vorbis is
this "OGG" thing.  Gee, thanks.  We really needed PlayOgg.

I still tried to stop some of the damage.  Few days after the project
started, I contacted its managers so we could collaborate and change
at least some things there.  Guess what?  To this day I received no
answer, at all.

I respect RMS, but the rest of the FSF can go f--- themselves.
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Well, if you want to improve the campaign, you can always work on it yourself 
by making your own site or something. My father is a musician who almost became 
famous. He's going for a second chance soon, and I will make sure that we use 
OGG (Vorbis) exclusively.






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