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Re: [AUCTeX-devel] Re: CVS repository synchronization for RefTeX

From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: [AUCTeX-devel] Re: CVS repository synchronization for RefTeX
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 12:42:50 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.92 (gnu/linux)

Ralf Angeli <address@hidden> writes:

> * David Kastrup (2007-01-07) writes:
>> Ralf Angeli <address@hidden> writes:
>>> Merging of changes between different repositories with different
>>> file and directory layouts.
>> I don't see "overhead in the long run" here.  We are presumably
>> talking about propagating changes to the Emacs CVS.
> I am more worried about propagating changes _from_ Emacs.  The
> changes propagating to Emacs will mostly be check-ins of new RefTeX
> version which should be possible to be handled easily.  I'm not so
> sure if this is similar in the case of changes done in the Emacs
> repository which are to be included in the RefTeX repository.

Ralf, you are basically arguing for taking over RefTeX maintenance
yourself, using Arch, and not in connection with AUCTeX.

Of course, this is a valid proposal, but we should not conflate it
with what happens with AUCTeX.

I have made Carsten an offer to try to put RefTeX with AUCTeX since it
was my feeling that this would be reasonably workable for the people

If you say that this solution does not cut it for you as an AUCTeX
developer, that is a valid concern, and should make us reconsider the
solution we arrive at.

But it should be clear that this would then make RefTeX a standalone
project separate from AUCTeX.

And even if it is fun to make RefTeX a testbed for Arch and/or
whatever else, I don't think that this is going to get RefTeX a wider
developer audience, and that is what the proposal of taking it under
the wings of AUCTeX was about in the first place.

>>> Because RefTeX users with Emacs 21.4 will get the sources using CVS
>>> via Emacs?  I doubt that.
>> Because I don't want to restrict RefTeX developers and pretesters to
>> just people installing the newest Emacs versions.
> Regarding developers, AFAICT DVC is compatible with Emacs 21.

What does "is compatible" mean?  What is "DVC"?  What does "regarding
developers" mean?

>> If we provide RefTeX also for older versions, we certainly don't
>> want to exclude people willing to test those versions.
> But why would those people get the sources through Emacs anyway?

Why wouldn't they?

> If it's just about fetching them (in contrast to checking stuff into
> the repository) they can easily do this with the standalone tla
> binary or by using snapshots we could provide just like for AUCTeX.

We are not at the current point of time swamped in so many developers
that making things inconvenient for them will be no problem.

David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

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