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Re: [] Welcome back to

From: rhinokitty
Subject: Re: [] Welcome back to
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 16:05:41 -0700
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OK, so I'll bite on that tasty morsel hanging on the shiny thing...

I think one good project for would be to start doing exposés.

This group has a good technical understanding of the threats to privacy, autonomy and freedom that many cloud based services pose, so a good thing to go after would be to show the most egregious abuses of such services.

The tech industry needs a better watchdog. The EFF is awesome, but focuses on legislative work more than corporate accountability. A perfect niche!

Advocacy is not dead. Some great examples can be found just to your left in the environmental, labor and human rights arenas.

Here is one great example of a recent campaign against Hershey:

Who knew that buying chocolate could support slave labor?! They offer evidence, cite examples, have excellent messaging, and alert the public. Classic corporate watchdog! could do the same for the tech industry. Has everything that needs to be written about the privacy implications of using Facebook been said? Hardly!

Everyone is very excited to see the revolutions in the Middle East, but everytime I read a news story I can almost hear the reporter mutter, "This revolution sponsored by Twitter."

Where is the critical voice? Even on NPR's On the Media is not as vocal a critic on the issue as one would expect:

Many un-critical and technologically ignorant ideas float to the general public on the FM dial through this venue. Perhaps they should be interviewing someone from about Twitter and Facebook once and a while?



On 4/14/11 3:31 PM, address@hidden wrote:
Totally. Here is my first problem. I don't think advocacy works, anymore.

What can <> do that is productive? provide
a directory of <> services? A badge like
CC licenses with a link to make an updated form of webring for sites,
with some distincly compliant features? A type of certification for
sites that don't sell people's data and souls to the devil? That is also
a potential revenue stream for the project.

I guess being a social club like CC is good for us, but how can we
really get more people onto this line of thinking and move this beyond a
bunch of blog posts, friends hanging out and watching ourselves in the
mirror becoming the cranky long bears we both admire and don't want to be ;)

Call to action! Blat!


On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Christopher Allan Webber
<address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:

    Mike Linksvayer <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>>

     > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 14:11, Matt Lee <address@hidden
    <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
     >> Anyway, I should shut up and finish my taxes. Welcome to you all!
     > Thank you!

    Make that a (double/triple/whatever). Â Thanks Matt & Jon... <>
    still greatly necessary. Â Hopefully we can continue both discussion and
    project activity.

    Mandatory: I, for one, welcome our new
    <> overlords! Â (Hm,
    except that part of the point of the point of
    <> is to reduce
    overlord dependency & proliferation... oh well.)

    Looking forward to re-engaging discussion & etc,
    Â - cwebb

    The bottom line.

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