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Re: [] 4 years

From: Mike Linksvayer
Subject: Re: [] 4 years
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:16:27 -0700

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Deb Nicholson
<address@hidden> wrote:
> I would be willing to write (or collaborate to write) a short bit on "a
> layperson's guide to what tools have been built and what needs building." I
> think that piece would be the most impactful if it were accompanied by a
> more technical update on the most needful bits and how interested &
> tech-savvy folks could get involved.

That'd be awesome. I think there are lots of technical and
non-technical things needed, so it'd be hard to cover all in a single
piece anyway.

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Hubert Figuière <address@hidden> wrote:
> Wow, this email was like a wakeup call. I forgot I was subscribed to the
> list.

Heh, me too, almost. :)

> I believe, and FSS is even more relevant than before. In the
> last 4 years, a lot of things have happened. We have seen vertical web
> silos getting even more evil, integrated and closed. Things like
> Facebook, Twitter, Google+, Flickr, etc. Between closing API, deleting
> accounts, kicking people out because their name doesn't fit an
> unenforceable rule, and violating users privacy, things haven't gotten
> better.
> But good things have happened, with various degrees of success:
> MediaGoblin,, Diaspora, openphoto, BrowseID trying to
> fullfill the statements or mission of the FSS.
> Non-withstanding things like OpenStack, Freebom box, that are here to
> help fullfill the infrastructure needs.
> All of this happened and grew out of the users needs.
> I believe maybe it is time to realign the FSS with what is current now.
> Put in a mission of pushing this border version with
> information, advocacy, etc. Maybe it is an opportunity to talk to the
> WebFWD folks at Mozilla[1]. See how to facilitate the development of
> project, hosting, etc.
> I am convinced there is a lot of interest.


On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Benj. Mako Hill <address@hidden> wrote:
> I'm down, and I'll do it.


>> Secondly, the website is also a bit of an embarrassment.
>> No link to source, no link to FSS, no link to this list, search
>> broken. I volunteer to migrate back to wordpress on a VM I'm paying if
>> nobody else is going to do something about it. How about that, whoever
>> is currently not managing the site?
> I agree. The current site isn't working. I filed a series of bugs
> against the site for most of those issues but the bug tracking system
> seems to be down. :)

It is up now. I see your bugs. :)

> In any case, Matt Lee has been gratiously hosting it since we migrated
> it away from Word Press because the machine at MIT I was hosting it on
> was actingly very unreliably and Matt had volunteered to do it
> instead.

Yep, I really hate to complain, as everyone hosting bits is doing a
good deed and has plenty of other stuff to do. Really though this is a
dilemma for FNS...

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:08 PM, John Sullivan <address@hidden> wrote:
> I'm up for it personally, and maybe the FSF can help facilitate this as
> with the original FSS process.



It's now a little less than a month till 4 years. All, think about
what you're going to write and/or announce. I'll put something on the
wiki tomorrow to organize if nobody beats me to it.


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