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bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width
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Titus von der Malsburg |
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bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width |
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Tue, 16 Dec 2014 19:28:45 -0800 |
On 2014-12-16 Tue 12:58, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de>
>> Cc: 19395@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 12:36:13 -0800
>>
>> > The n+1st character is usurped for the continuation glyph. This is
>> > not a bug.
>>
>> Sorry, but I don't understand that. If (window-width) says there is
>> space for 50 characters and I put 50 characters on a line, there
>> shouldn't be a continuation character in the first place.
>
> window-width doesn't report the number of characters a window's line
> can hold without continuation. It reports the window width in
> character units. When there's no fringe to display the continuation
> bitmap, that width includes the space reserved for the continuation
> glyph, which is the backslash character produced by the display engine
> on the last column of the line.
>
>> Also, I don't see why I should get different behaviour for different
>> values of left-fringe. When left-fringe is > 0, I get as many
>> characters on a line as (window-width) reports. But if left-fringe
>> is 0, I get one character less on the line.
>
> As long as the left fringe exists, we can display on it. But once its
> width is zero, it no longer exists, and so we need to reserve space to
> display the continuation glyph "by other means".
I see, thanks for explaining. Perhaps it would make sense to amend the
documentation of `window-width' because this is easy to misunderstand
and I suspect that I'm not the only one who consults window-width in
order to determine how much columns are available for text display. In
term.el, I found a function that does what I want (`term-window-width')
but requiring term.el only to use this function seems
inappropriate. Duplicating this function is not perfect either.
Titus
>> This behaviour doesn't seem to be consistent with the documentation
>> of window-width. Quote:
>>
>> The return value does not include any vertical dividers, fringes or
>> marginal areas, or scroll bars.
>
> This doesn't say anything about continuation and truncation glyphs, so
> I see no inconsistency here, perhaps just missing details.
>
>> My understanding of this is that the fringes should not matter at
>> all. If window-with reports n, I should be able to fit n characters on
>> a line irrespective of what the fringes are.
>
> I tried to explain above why this interpretation is incorrect:
> window-width does not return the number of characters of buffer text
> that can be displayed on a line.
>
>> Moreover, why is this specific to the left-fringe? The value of
>> right-fringe does not affect influence whether I can get
>> (window-width) or (window-width) -1 characters on a line.
>
> That's not what I see here. Setting any of the fringes' width to zero
> causes window-width to report 1 more character than you can put on a
> line without going to a continuation line. IOW, the "penalty" is
> symmetrical, at least on my machine.
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width, (continued)
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width, Titus von der Malsburg, 2014/12/16
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/12/17
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width, Stefan Monnier, 2014/12/17
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/12/17
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width, Stefan Monnier, 2014/12/18
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/12/18
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width,
Titus von der Malsburg <=
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/12/17
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width, Titus von der Malsburg, 2014/12/17
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/12/17
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width, Titus von der Malsburg, 2014/12/17
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/12/17
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width, Titus von der Malsburg, 2014/12/17
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/12/18
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width, martin rudalics, 2014/12/19
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/12/19
- bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width, martin rudalics, 2014/12/20