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bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize
From: |
Stefan Kangas |
Subject: |
bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize |
Date: |
Thu, 21 Oct 2021 12:45:15 -0700 |
User-agent: |
Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> No, you can customize it directly from `customize-group'.
>
> When you do, I'm okay with fully expanding the doc string of the
> variable which you are customizing from the groups buffer. Would that
> solve the issue at hand?
I don't think I understand what this proposal means. Could you perhaps
spell it out more explicitly?
>> But I'm not sure what you mean by "complicating commands" given that the
>> proposal AFAIU is to introduce a specific `customize-describe-variable'
>> bound to `C-h v' that handles also the unlispified names.
>
> How would you implement that without complicating the command? The
> unlispified name is just several English words.
Maybe we are miscommunicating. I mean that if we add a new command
`customize-describe-variable', it won't complicate `describe-variable'.
> Why do we need to make Emacs so much more complex for the benefit of
> an obscure use case, which already has more than one existing
> solution?
I just noticed that we already have such handling of unlispified names
in `C-h S', which is IMO a useful DWIM feature. So this wouldn't be
that different.
>> I believe the activity we are engaged in right now is currently as good
>> as it gets. FWIW, if I had my way, I would for sure close bugs and
>> feature requests far more enthusiastically than is being done now.
>
> Please do, then. IMNSHO, a proposal for a minor feature that exists
> for more than a decade, and was discussed at length without generating
> any reasonable consensus, should be closed as wontfix.
>
>> For example, "wontfix" could also be used meaning: "yes, it's an issue
>> but it's not one we consider worth fixing, if you care enough send a
>> patch and we will reconsider".
>
> Exactly.
This message has been received; I'll try to apply it with the necessary
restraint. I expect that you will let me know if I don't. ;-)
- bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, (continued)
- bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, Howard Melman, 2021/10/21
- bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/10/21
- bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, Howard Melman, 2021/10/21
- bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/10/22
- bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, Howard Melman, 2021/10/22
- bug#400: [External] : bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, Drew Adams, 2021/10/22
bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, Stefan Kangas, 2021/10/21
- bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/10/21
- bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, Stefan Kangas, 2021/10/21
- bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/10/21
- bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize,
Stefan Kangas <=
- bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/10/22
- bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, Stefan Kangas, 2021/10/22
- bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/10/22
bug#400: [External] : Re: bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, Drew Adams, 2021/10/22
bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, Howard Melman, 2021/10/21
bug#400: [External] : bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, Drew Adams, 2021/10/22
bug#400: [External] : bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize, Juri Linkov, 2021/10/23