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bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display
From: |
Robert Pluim |
Subject: |
bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display |
Date: |
Sun, 17 Apr 2022 17:14:53 +0200 |
>>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 10:35:17 -0400, Howard Melman <hmelman@gmail.com>
>>>>> said:
Howard> Thanks for all this info. So on that page, in the second headed
section of the
Howard> table "Emoji Font" is where U+1F37D appears. In the "text-vs" row,
which
Howard> I think is the case of a lone U+1F37D, I see the emoji glyph in my
mac browser.
Howard> The description in that header says:
Howard> “text+ts” should be monochrome; everything else should be
colorful & monospace.
Howard> which matches what I see. So I think, a lone U+1F37D should be
displayed
Howard> as an "emoji glyph".
_If_ you've specified an emoji font for it, which we donʼt do by
default, since it has Emoji_Presentation = False, so you should look
at the "Plain" section instead.
Howard> Can emacs be configured to display these lone codepoints via my
emoji font?
Howard> I gather that's what using the 'symbol script does but also
includes more.
Howard> Can I (or emacs out-of-the-box) be more selective in the call to
Howard> set-fontset-font or some other api?
Yes. Try:
(set-fontset-font t #x1f37d
'("Apple Color Emoji" . "iso10646-1") nil 'prepend)
For a range of codepoints, replace #x1f37d with something like
'(#x1f37d . #x1f3aa)
>>>> I said, I don't understand this stuff. Is this extra codepoint
supposed
>>>> to be added for me? It doesn't seem like other apps require it.
>>
Eli> Emacs currently doesn't insert the variation selectors automatically,
Eli> although perhaps the Emoji input method should (or maybe already
Eli> does, I didn't check).
>>
>> The stuff Lars added on master puts in variation selectors where
>> needed.
Howard> The emoji input method isn't on 28 so I can't check, but FWIW this
seems
Howard> to not match the behavior I see using the mac system emoji picker
Howard> which seems to just insert a lone U+1F37D when I pick this emoji.
I donʼt think we should follow what the mac does when it contradicts
what Unicode is telling us.
Howard> And I'll add, if that's displayed equivalently I'd prefer it,
because I wouldn't
Howard> have to deal with "extra invisible characters" after the glyph when
Howard> using emacs editing commands (unless this is different behavior in
29
Howard> than in 28 when I add the variation selector character).
Those characters get composed, so they get treated as a single
unit. They really donʼt cause any problems.
>> Modulo `use-default-font-for-symbols'
Howard> FWIW this variable set to t for me which I think is the default.
I meant you should try setting it to 'nil'.
Eli> So I think the recipe in NEWS is correct, and your expectations were
Eli> inconsistent with the Emacs support for Emoji, at least with its state
Eli> in Emacs 28.1.
>>
>> Iʼm not sure what we could change. I guess we could add a
>> configuration variable that says 'treat every code point that has a
>> default text presentation and an emoji one as emoji', except we
>> already have that: VARIATION SELECTOR 16
Howard> I think the section I mentioned above is this case, that things in
the
Howard> "emojiFont" grouping, w/o a variation selector should be presented
Howard> colorful and monospace (which I take to mean "as emoji"). Am I
Howard> misunderstanding?
Again: when an emoji font has been specified for the codepoint.
Robert
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- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, (continued)
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Howard Melman, 2022/04/16
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/04/16
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Howard Melman, 2022/04/16
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/04/16
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Howard Melman, 2022/04/16
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/04/16
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Howard Melman, 2022/04/16
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/04/17
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Robert Pluim, 2022/04/17
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Howard Melman, 2022/04/17
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display,
Robert Pluim <=
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Howard Melman, 2022/04/17
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2022/04/17
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Howard Melman, 2022/04/17
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/04/17
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Howard Melman, 2022/04/17
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Howard Melman, 2022/04/17
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/04/18
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Howard Melman, 2022/04/18
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Howard Melman, 2022/04/18
- bug#54970: 28.1; Some emoji no longer display, Howard Melman, 2022/04/22