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bug#56025: 29.0.50; em-extpipe-test-2 times out on EMBA and Cygwin


From: Jim Porter
Subject: bug#56025: 29.0.50; em-extpipe-test-2 times out on EMBA and Cygwin
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2022 21:35:36 -0700

On 7/6/2022 3:33 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
On 6/30/2022 11:52 PM, Jim Porter wrote:
Ok, I've got Cygwin set up (though I'm just using the prebuilt Cygwin Emacs for now). I can confirm that the following hangs until I send another EOF via `C-c C-d':

   echo hi | rev

Yes, but that's because of the behavior of certain platforms (e.g., Cygwin and Solaris) with respect to EOF, as I said in an earlier message.

Yeah, I think that's fine, and the change to send an extra EOF for compatibility with (non-master) Cygwin and Solaris makes sense to me. I just wanted to be sure to mention that I could see the issue too so that I can (hopefully) verify that it's fixed if/when we come up with a more-reliable fix.

However, if I evaluate the following first, the above command works just fine:

   (add-to-list 'eshell-needs-pipe "rev")

Normally, Eshell starts each process using ptys to control them. However, the above Elisp code tells Eshell to use a pipe for "rev"[1].

That makes sense.  You're no longer relying on Eshell sending EOF to rev, but rather you're letting rev discover EOF because no process holds the pipe open for writing, forcing any pending read to stop blocking.

Maybe it would be good to do it this way in general though, since this would let us completely avoid the behavioral differences of EOF on various platforms. I believe using a pipe should work consistently everywhere, right? (It would also probably fix some other issues with Eshell pipelines, but I'll need to read up on ptys, since it's been a long time since I've done anything with them.)

However, I don't think this fully answers things, since I also see inconsistent results if I run "echo hi | rev" a bunch of times. Sometimes it prints "ih" and then I need to hit `C-c C-d` once to stop it. Other times it doesn't print anything and I need to hit `C-c C-d' twice.

Interesting.  I've never seen that.  It's as though "rev" just didn't get one of the EOFs.

Yeah, that's what it seems like to me too. I'm not able to reproduce this on GNU/Linux (at least not yet; I'll try some more things out). I'll keep poking at the Cygwin version too, and start experimenting with Emacs's src/process.c to try and allow using a pty for only stdin *or* stdout (instead of both). I think that would make Eshell's pipelines behaves more like other shells, which would squash a lot of bugs in this area.





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