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bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs
From: |
Alan Mackenzie |
Subject: |
bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup |
Date: |
Thu, 20 Oct 2022 10:55:40 +0000 |
Hello, Eli.
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 08:20:48 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2022 19:58:36 +0000
> > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 58634@debbugs.gnu.org
> > From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
> > I have a theory. The function desktop-restore-file-buffer visits a file
> > with find-file-noselect, then calls switch-to-buffer on it. (This is the
> > interactive command on C-x b.) In earlier times, there would be a delay
> > in visiting the next file, and in this delay redisplay would happen. The
> > user would thus see a sequence of short displays of his files being
> > loaded. Nowadays, the time to visit a file is so short that redisplay
> > never registers a delay, and so doesn't redisplay. But with something
> > slowing the processing down a little (outputting "Restoring
> > desktop......", for example), the OS's file system goes to sleep, and
> > takes long enough to wake up for redisplay to trigger. Or something like
> > that.
> > What do you think?
> Does this happen with Emacs 28 as well in your configuration?
It does, yes. More precisely, it did after I commented out some
variables in several .dir-locals that were causing "unsafe variable"
warning messages.
> Because with Emacs 28 I use desktop.el all the time, and I do see the
> frame displaying some files and messages in the echo-area.
Remember, the blank screen only happens for me in emacs -nw and on the
linux console, not in GUI X.
> If the same happens for you with Emacs 28, I guess it's somehow
> related to your init files and/or what exactly is in your session.
> For example, my sessions always include some buffers under Text mode
> or its descendants, and those turn on Flyspell mode in my
> configuration; starting Flyspell mode launches the speller as a
> sub-process, and that usually triggers some form of redisplay. In
> addition, I have garbage-collection-messages turned on, so GC-related
> messages are shown in the echo-area, which also is a kind of
> redisplay. Restoring file buffers sometimes produces prompts, e.g. if
> the file is too large or there are local variables there that require
> confirmation -- and those prompts trigger redisplay as well.
> If you have none of that in your configuration, perhaps desktop.el can
> indeed produce a completely blank frame. Although it sounds strange
> to me, since I never saw anything like that. But it could be because
> I'm used to starting Emacs with my configuration.
All this supports my hypothesis (above). Anything which is "slow"
causes a redisplay during desktop loading. For each buffer loaded,
there is a switch-to-buffer call, so anything causing a redisplay will
display that buffer.
If you agree with me that this needs fixing (I think you do), I have two
ideas on how to fix it:
(i) (Rough and ready): Output a "progress report" in the form of a dot
for each buffer, showing "Restoring desktop.......", exactly as in the
patch I included yesterday. The user might not see any buffers here,
but will at least be reassured his Emacs hasn't hung.
(ii) (More complicated): Count the number of buffers since the last
redisplay. When this reaches, say, 10, cause the next buffer to be
redisplayed by something like (sit-for 0.1), or even (redisplay) in
desktop-restore-file-buffer. The counter would be reset by a function
on the hook pre-redisplay-functions.
What do you think?
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
- bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup, Alan Mackenzie, 2022/10/19
- bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/10/19
- bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup, Andrea Corallo, 2022/10/19
- bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup, Alan Mackenzie, 2022/10/19
- bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/10/20
- bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup,
Alan Mackenzie <=
- bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/10/20
- bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup, Alan Mackenzie, 2022/10/20
- bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/10/20
- bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup, Alan Mackenzie, 2022/10/21
- bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/10/21
- bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup, Alan Mackenzie, 2022/10/21
- bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/10/21
- bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup, Alan Mackenzie, 2022/10/21
- bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/10/21
- bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup, Alan Mackenzie, 2022/10/21