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bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot
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João Távora |
Subject: |
bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot |
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Wed, 12 Apr 2023 13:01:07 +0100 |
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 12:46 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> > From: João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 12:35:23 +0100
> > Cc: philipk@posteo.net, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 62720@debbugs.gnu.org,
> > larsi@gnus.org
> >
> > > > Can we put this tiny patch on master then?
> > >
> > > Yes, if Philip and Stefan don't object. But, since there will be a
> > > command for updating core packages, doesn't this go against your
> > > desire not to change the UX?
> >
> > IMO The user experience is bad/broken.
>
> We don't yet have the other command, let alone any user feedback. So
> I don't think you can know this is bad/broken yet. You may think so,
> but I happen to think differently, so let's not behave as if this is a
> fact already.
I was talking about the current state, obviously. It's bad/broken,
IMO, as I described the original bug report, and noone really contested
that I think. As to the new command you're proposing I think we'll both
agree that it's adding _new_ UX to the Emacs 29 pretest, something
which is at least infrequent.
> > So at least I want to change it, if minimally. That's what any bug
> > report is about, to change UX for the better. Here, to let people
> > not to have to go through odd hoops big or small to install packages
> > or know if something is built-in/core or not.
>
> Using a specialized command for a special job is nowhere near jumping
> through hoops.
Right. But we fundamentally disagree that this is a "special job".
There's 0 reason why it should be.
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, (continued)
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, João Távora, 2023/04/12
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/04/12
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, João Távora, 2023/04/12
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/04/12
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, João Távora, 2023/04/12
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/04/12
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot,
João Távora <=
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- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, João Távora, 2023/04/12
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, Philip Kaludercic, 2023/04/12
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, João Távora, 2023/04/12
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/04/12
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, Philip Kaludercic, 2023/04/12
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, Stefan Monnier, 2023/04/12
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, João Távora, 2023/04/12
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, Stefan Monnier, 2023/04/12
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, João Távora, 2023/04/12