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bug#66394: 29.1; Make register-read-with-preview more useful
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Bastien Guerry |
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bug#66394: 29.1; Make register-read-with-preview more useful |
Date: |
Sat, 02 Dec 2023 11:37:55 +0100 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) |
Hi Thierry,
thanks for your anwer.
Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net> writes:
>> - C-x r s would display the preview and copy the region to the "b"
>> register as soon as the "b" key is hit (using read-key).
>
> I suggest you use M-n RET instead if you want to be sure you don't
> overwrite a register.
What I am suggesting is to store the register _as soon as_ the user
hits the "b" key.
Since the recent changes, I need to hit one additional keystroke for
zero benefit, which is a net less when you use registers a lot.
I use "a", "b", "c" registers for quick copy and paste and can easily
remember them; when I need more, I use register-list.el.
> It is what it is doing actually with minibuffer. Hitting "a" highlight
> register "a" and send a message "overwriting register", then you can hit
> RET if you want to overwrite.
This might be useful in some cases. I don't suggest to change this. I
suggest to allow the previous behavior for empty registers.
> I think using read-key+minibuffer would be very complicated and would
> need much more code, this for a small benefit: Saving one key (RET).
I would say this is not a small benefit.
> Also I think hitting RET in any case is better as it does a kind of
> "confirm I want to do this".
IMHO confirmation is good for cases where mistakes can have bad
consequences. I don't see them when using an empty register.
> Also using read-key leads to bug like we had previously as we must mimic
> a keymap which is often wrong.
I know there are always trade-offs. I just wanted to report the slight
"eww" moment I had wrt this UX change, which I still think is wrong.
If we set this issue aside, I wonder if read-key could be augmented so
that certain keystrokes let the user enter in "editing mode" (a bit
like when users hit C-s then C-e to edit the search string.) I can see
several situations where a read-key prompt would benefit from allowing
to switch to a minibuffer prompt with all the flexibility it provides:
- Allowing for confirmation when overwriting a register is one;
- Allowing to hit two keystrokes to facilitate navigation for C-h:
e.g. `C-h k l' would list keybindings; `C-h k d` would describe a
keybinding, etc.
This touches explorations that perhaps Jonas made while designing
transient, so I'm adding him to this conversation.
--
Bastien Guerry
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