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Re: [Bug-gnubg] [Proposal] Theory panel ?!


From: Christian Anthon
Subject: Re: [Bug-gnubg] [Proposal] Theory panel ?!
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:58:32 +0200

I agree with you in many ways, but I'm afraid it isn't for now, unless
somebody else decides to do it. These good suggestions will likely be
forgotten unless you make a proper report here

https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?func=additem&group=gnubg

Christian.

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Rich Heimlich<address@hidden> wrote:
> I use the program very much as a typical user might. Maybe a game every week
> or so. I've never even heard of the theory panel.
>
> My biggest issues with the program as it is all revolve around it being too
> skewed toward the expert player without having simple, quick access for the
> casual player. A theory panel is a nice idea and it should stay but remain
> optional and off by default.
>
> Every time I get a new person to join our ranks I have to personally take
> the time to set up their game and save those settings and explain it a bit
> before they can enjoy it. They, like me, are just casual players (though
> some still appreciate the power to be had here). GNUBG is still a great
> solution for such players as it steps them through it all.
>
> The biggest thing I really miss from mainstream BG computer games is the
> sense of social interaction. I'd like to see the program add bells and
> whistles that make the casual experience more engrossing. A tutor that does
> more than just show a list of moves. Where possible explain WHY those moves
> are better. Provide some examples. Really lay out the cases as one gets with
> a dissection of chess moves. Look to add audio (all optional) triggers tied
> to player personalities. I'd love to see something like a virtual tournament
> where I can go and play at the lowest levels and move up and see my name in
> a tournament board. Have fictional earnings and move up the ranks as GNUBG
> slowly improves my game taking me from novice to expert. All of this is
> possible with the amazing design you guys have put into this. I'd just like
> to see it not forget the casual user. More users isn't a bad thing.
>
>
>
> On 8/20/2009 2:11 PM, Myshkin LeVine wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>         I am of the opinion that features like the theory panel
>> should not be removed unless they become code maintenance problems.
>> The theory panel may be turned off if it is not desired. Instead of
>> simply removing it because some users might be confused as to its
>> purpose, let those users simply leave it off which is the default.
>> Most of those who would be confused by it will never know that it
>> exists, as evidenced by Max who reports just discovering it. I would
>> rather have us follow Jon's idea of finding a way to improve it
>> somehow so that it is more useful.
>>                        Take care,
>>                                  Myshkin
>>
>>
>>  >  Jon Kinsey wrote:
>>  >  ...If the general consensus is to remove it then I've not got a
>> problem with that,
>>  >  or if there are suggestions to make it more useful then I could
>> try and fill it out.
>>  >
>>  >  Jon
>>
>>
>>  >>  Massimiliano Maini wrote:
>>  >>  I just noticed thepossibility to have a "Theory panel" shown.
>>  >>
>>  >>  The info shown seems to be: pip count, EPC, return hits and
>> Kleinman count.
>>  >>  But EPC and return hits do not seem to get updated.
>>  >>
>>  >>  Anyway, do we really need this panel ? I would say no.
>>  >>
>>  >>  MaX.
>>
>>
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