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Re: source builds vs. RPMs
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Bruno Haible |
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Re: source builds vs. RPMs |
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Sat, 5 Jun 2010 13:52:45 +0200 |
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Hi Richard,
Richard Jones wrote:
> > Where does the thinking come from that "there must be only one instance
> > of every package"?
> ...
> My experience of the goodness of packaging systems comes from my use
> of OSes like Minix and FreeBSD which don't have good (or any)
> packaging systems, and require complete reinstallation after a short
> period of time once the layers of cruft from multiple 'make install'
> commands have built up.
Mike Frysinger wrote:
> packages install way too much cruft that changes over versions to sanely
> track
> without a PM, and `make uninstall` is way too inconsistent and "helpful" to
> even think about trusting.
The solution to this problem is the 'Nix' package manager <http://nixos.org/>.
It allows you have multiple versions or builds of a package installed, while
at the same time having clear boundaries and clean uninstalls.
I personally have been using a different --prefix for most package
installations; you can call it a "poor man's Nix" approach.
> > Where does the thinking come from that it is bad to have something not
> > recognized by the package system?
>
> The packaging system manages security updates, that's one very big
> reason.
Indeed, if you want security updates, just building from source with
"./configure && make && make install" will not provide them to you
automatically.
I'm not sure how we can address this issue?
Bruno
- Re: gettext 0.18 grumbles, (continued)
- Re: gettext 0.18 grumbles, Bruno Haible, 2010/06/03
- Re: gettext 0.18 grumbles, Richard W.M. Jones, 2010/06/03
- Re: gettext 0.18 grumbles, Richard W.M. Jones, 2010/06/03
- source builds vs. RPMs (was: Re: gettext 0.18 grumbles), Bruno Haible, 2010/06/03
- Re: source builds vs. RPMs (was: Re: gettext 0.18 grumbles), Richard W.M. Jones, 2010/06/04
- Re: source builds vs. RPMs, Bruno Haible, 2010/06/04
- Re: source builds vs. RPMs, Richard W.M. Jones, 2010/06/04
- Re: source builds vs. RPMs,
Bruno Haible <=
- Re: source builds vs. RPMs, Mike Frysinger, 2010/06/05
- Re: source builds vs. RPMs, Mike Frysinger, 2010/06/04
Re: gettext 0.18 grumbles, Jim Meyering, 2010/06/03