Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat

[David Hedlund]

I forwarded this message to to George Douros <address@hidden>.

Thank you.


On 2018-04-21 08:00, Mart Rootamm wrote:
> The color emoji are too large.
>
> When using Android, the color emoji are typically much bigger than the
> rest of the text, which I have always thought to be a feature in order
> to increase the visibility of any (color) emoji, and not a bug.
>
> In computers that still have Windows xp, I've installed Symbola as the
> go-to font for emoji. There, Firefox did not require about:config
> tweaks, but the old SeaMonkey 1.1 did.
>
> License change issue with Symbola and other fonts by George Douros.
>
> Symbola and many other fonts are available at below link:
> http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/
>
> But I've just discovered, that George Douros has changed the license
> of the fonts between 29 January 2018, and 7 March 2018.
>
> The Internet Archive snapshot on 29 January 2018 says:
> "In lieu of a licence; fonts and documents in this site are free for any use;"
> This includes Symbola 10.23 and many other fonts by Douros.
> Source:
> https://web.archive.org/web/20180129230141/http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/
>
> The next snapshot from 7 March 2018 says this:
> "Free use of the software on this site is strictly limited to
> personal, non-commercial use;"
> Involves Symbola 10.24 and many other fonts.
> Source:
> https://web.archive.org/web/20180307012615/http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/
>
> It should be possible to narrow down the date span of the change with
> other web archive services.
>
> Word should be spread, that fonts by George Douros are no longer free
> in the spirit of GNU.
>
> -Mart.
>
> 2018-04-21 3:22 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich <address@hidden>:
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > As for the Noto Emoji font, everything's a-okay. They show up in the
> > size of the surrounding text, and even though they're not coloured
> > (because they're not coloured in the font, either), they work just as
> > you'd expect emoji to work.
> >
> > When using the Noto Color Emoji font, however, it produces results as
> > shown in the pictures attached. As you may notice, they are WAY
> > oversized for the area they're supposed to be displayed in. The first
> > attachment (emoji-regular.png) shows the emoji as they show up on
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Emoji_(Unicode_block). The
> > second one (emoji-textarea.png) shows the emoji when used in a text
> > area. The emoji was pasted in line 7 as last character on the line.
> >
> > As I said, though, I am pretty sure the oversized display is due to my
> > installation of the font (or the font in general?) being corrupted or
> > unusable, not a bug in IceCat.
> >
> > With regard to the replies: Yes, I am subscribed to the list, so
> > there's no need to CC me :)
> >
> > --
> > Felix Fröhlich
> > GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F
> >
> > On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 20:51 +0300, Mart Rootamm wrote:
> > > Felix,
> > > There are additional font size settings in about:config, if you
> > > search
> > > there just with 'font'.
> > >
> > > The about:config solution is one, though in some operating systems,
> > > browsers typically default to the closest possible match, if they
> > > rely
> > > on the OS to match missing characters, thus precluding the trip to
> > > about:config.
> > >
> > > wrt font size, can you send a screenshot of what the Noto emoji look
> > > like for you with text?
> > > For example, both in a plain Wikipedia article, and in a textarea
> > > (editing an article).
> > >
> > > wrt to replies, then I originally sent a reply both to bug-gnuzilla,
> > > and a carbon copy to you. On assumption, that you've subscribed
> > > anyway, then I won't :cc you.
> > >
> > > -M.
> > >
> > > 2018-04-20 0:52 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich <address@hidden
> > > > :
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> > > > Hash: SHA512
> > > >
> > > > Whoops. Apparently that email didn't include the previous reply I
> > > > sent
> > > > to Mart. Here you go:
> > > >
> > > >      Hi Mart,
> > > >
> > > >      Great! Thanks for the advice.
> > > >
> > > >      I added the Noto Color Emoji font to the following about:config
> > > >      settings:
> > > >
> > > >       * font.name.monospace.x-unicode
> > > >       * font.name.sans-serif.x-unicode
> > > >       * font.name.serif.x-unicode
> > > >
> > > >      Now the Emoji actually do show up. They're way too big, though
> > > > ^^
> > > >
> > > >      I'll play around with the font settings and see if I can manage
> > > >      this; Maybe I'll have to use a different font.
> > > >
> > > > - --
> > > > Felix Fröhlich
> > > > GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 23:33 +0200, Felix Fröhlich wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > So, erm, that was... not optimal. I wrote the mail to Mart and
> > > > > bug-
> > > > > gnuz
> > > > > address@hidden because for some reason I believed that was
> > > > > the
> > > > > correct email address... Please don't ask me why.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyhow, with Mart's help I figured out how to display the emoji
> > > > > (see
> > > > > below).
> > > > >
> > > > > I also found out that -- for some reason I don't know -- the Noto
> > > > > Color
> > > > > Emoji font on my system appears to be corrupted, as the font
> > > > > shows up
> > > > > as what looks like a rounded square in gnome-font-viewer (see
> > > > > attachment). Not sure what causes this, but I fell back to the
> > > > > uncoloured version of that font, namely Noto Emoji. It's no big
> > > > > deal,
> > > > > really.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now all emoji that I wanted to display show up just fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again for your help, Mart!
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > http://gnuzilla.gnu.org
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