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Re: Net driver update for S900 required
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Mark Pavlichuk |
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Re: Net driver update for S900 required |
Date: |
Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:51:02 +1000 |
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Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote:
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 03:58, Mark Pavlichuk wrote:
My understanding now is that Hans-Peter Jansen was going to take on
the difficult job of synching the modern etherboot drivers with grub...
Doesn't seem he has posted to this or the etherboot list for a while
(since August?). Ken Yap (one of the etherboot head men) doesn't seem
to appreciate the grub sourcecode aesthetics or overall design
philosophy and wasn't excited about helping, and the grub people (the
few, the proud, the insane?) weren't particularly enthusiastic about the
task themselves.
After all, your problem is yours, not but any other's. Everybody acts as
his/her own priority. If he/she is interested in solving your problem, he/she
will do. Otherwise, he/she won't. That's the so-called freedom.
It wasn't my intention to insult anyone. I understand that
maintaining a project such as yours would take
a lot of energy and probably a lot more time than you have free.
I was just asking if anyone was working on the problem, because if
noone is I'll have to decide how to
deal with this problem myself.
About your problem, I'm more or less interested in fixing it, because I want
to make GRUB better, but not because I want to support you personally. So I
appreciate if you fix it and send a patch to us, but I don't want to make any
attempt to fix it myself. My time is limited and I have many others things to
do.
This was my understanding of your position from reading the mailing list.
Sometimes people ask, "I did blah blah, and it didn't work. Why?" But I want
to say, "Who knows?" If you did something, you are the only one who can
investigate what happens, unless you give us every piece of information.
My investigation has shown that the new etherboot drivers will
probably help with my S900 problem,
but not with my via-rhine problem. (I compiled the new etherboot and it
works with S900 and not with
our via-rhine cards. The new etherboot S900 driver includes fixes from
Linux kernel 2.4.17, and our cards
seem only to work work with 2.4.17 and up).
This is my advise: If you think you can work more on your problem, please go
ahead. We can support you, as far as your questions are what we know already.
Otherwise, please find someone else willing to work on your problem. If you
are quite lucky, you can find such a person without money. But it is normally
easier to find a talented person, if you pay money to the person. Generally
speaking, support is not free in the sense of "free beer".
Okuji
My last email was basically to see if Hans-Peter Jansen was still
working on the problem.
BTW, I have some idea how frustrating running a volunteer effort can
be. I'm not an active coder but I've
recently organised a Linux installfest for my home city. Everyone has
plenty of ideas on making things better
but noone seems to want to help.
-Mark