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Re: GRUB2 Sucks!


From: Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
Subject: Re: GRUB2 Sucks!
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 00:10:11 +0200
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On 28.03.2011 23:49, Ken Stump wrote:
> If that's the case, then it reinforces my point.  It never should have
> been released in this "condition".  And it doesn't install "where you
> tell it".  It installs where it wants to which is probably in the
> coding of the program to screw with the first disk it comes to.  But
> then why would it also screw up two other drives at the same time?  
> Can't it "search" in a "read only" mode for the Linux partition
> instead of corrupting everything it finds?  Linux doesn't normally
> install on an NTFS partition.
>
> Thanks for the responses, but there has been nothing in the way of
> practical information.
>
I already told you all of it.
If you want to install to sda you do:
grub-install /dev/sda
If you want to install to sdb you do
grub-install /dev/sdb
And so on. Unless grub-install or grub-setup is called, GRUB won't be
installed.
How Debian or Ubuntu or any other distro calls the grub-install during
update is out of what this mailing list handles. I'm aware that
sometimes Debian or Ubuntu launches grub-install with wrong argument but
we just do what is told us to do.
You wouldn't scream at coreutils if someone launched "rm -rf /" on your
system. Same, please, don't scream at GRUB2 because packaging instructed
it to install itself to wrong disk.
A a side note to change install devices in Debian/Ubuntu it's
sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
As for bugreporting on packaging bugs, it's launchpad.
> Personally, I'll go back to 8.10 with regular GRUB until a stable,
> reliable release.  I have a feeling that's going to take some time to
> happen because I don't think you even grasp the magnitude of this. 
> You've essentially created a new Microsoft.  And one of those was more
> than enough.
>

> Ken
>
> --- On *Mon, 3/28/11, Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
> /<address@hidden>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko <address@hidden>
>     Subject: Re: GRUB2 Sucks!
>     To: "Ken Stump" <address@hidden>
>     Cc: address@hidden
>     Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 2:57 PM
>
>     On 28.03.2011 20:06, Ken Stump wrote:
>     > No.  I'm not "trolling".  I'm fed up!  And you are incorrect
>     about it
>     > being installed in the wrong drive.  Had you read the whole email, I
>     > specifically said that I physically removed the internal hard
>     drive.
>     > This was done preciously because GRUB2 does whatever it wants to do,
>     > not what people want it to do!
>     >
>     GRUB2 just installs where it's told to install. Packaging may be
>     confused by changing disk names and so may instruct GRUB2 to
>     install to
>     wrong drive
>     > It was after I reinstalled the internal hard disk, and had done an
>     > update to the installed Ubuntu 10.10 and rebooting was required that
>     > if screwed up my internal hard drive.  It also screwed up a
>     second USB
>     > drive that is nothing but a music depository.  So why is it messing
>     > with all these other drives?
>     >
>     Because Ubuntu was confused about which drive is which and so
>     update/reinstall had installed to wrong device
>     >
>
>     -- 
>     Regards
>     Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
>
>
>


-- 
Regards
Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko


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