Re: Hurd state

[Alfred M. Szmidt]

   If they don't want to help then that is our problem. 

I still disagree, if people don't want to help we can't force them.
It is our problem however if we have people who wish to help, but for
some reason can't because we are to elitist.

   Still I have a few notes (and I don't have time to fix them myself
   right now, I've spent too much time writing these e-mails already,
   while I should be working).

If you tell me what is wrong, then I (or someone else) might fix it.
I wasn't looking for patches, I was looking for suggestions, since
people whine quite alot without saying what is wrong.

    > 2 July 2003
    >     The tarball for Debian GNU/Hurd that Marcus Brinkmann made over
    >     the years has been discontinued in favour of Jeff Bailey's
    >     crosshurd package. To install Debian GNU/Hurd from now on, this
    >     package should be used. Another Debian system is required to be
    >     installed on the same machine. The GNU/Hurd installation guide has
    >     not been updated yet.

   It should be updated.

No, it shouldn't.  This was news, and we shouldn't change history.

   In the installation guide, this is suggested for running X:
    > export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/X11R6/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH

   However, that will not work for suid programs, in particular xterm.
   So either xterm should be made non-suid, which prevents it from
   updating utmp, or you need to link all libraries to /lib.  Last
   time I used the hurd I did the latter, but it would probably be
   preferrable to have a translator on /lib which just merges the
   contents of several directories.  Whatever is preferred for solving
   this should be documented in the guide.

Thhis is more a problem for Debian then the Hurd.  GNU won't have
these problems since /X11R6/lib won't exist (it will probobly be
/packages/XFree86-9.9.9/lib, that is unioned into /lib).  So it should
be documented in the Debian GNU/Hurd installation guide, Michael,
could you update it accordingly?