Re:

[Ricardo Bánffy]

You can always install Docker and run tack from a box that has it. Docker on a Mac is pretty much a necessity anyway when you are a software developer for anything that hopes to run on something other than macOS/iOS/tvOS/watchOS.

On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 9:08 AM Thomas Dickey <address@hidden> wrote:

On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 07:52:50AM +0100, Ricardo Bánffy wrote:
> Apple no longer bundles X with macOS. What I usually do is to get the X
> server, which is now developed separately. Or just use iTerm when I need a
> better terminal that's much better at pretending to be a DEC terminal that
> Terminal.app.
>
> Unfortunately, that's not very helpful, as relatively few people have iTerm
> installed and almost nobody has an X environment on their Macs.
>
> I think the best approach would be to check an "ncurses torture app" that
> exercises individual features so you can pinpoint where Terminal fails and
> then report the issue and/or shame them publicly for them. They do care
> about developer experience and a sizable chunk of their market for laptops
> is for developers and sysadmins (my last 4 Macs or so were company issued
> machines).
>
> Is there a vttest analog for ncurses?

tack (which you can compile - MacPorts has no package - nor do any of
the BSDs)

See

https://invisible-island.net/ncurses/tack.html

> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 00:51 <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> > I can second that one.  The terminal emulation behavior for OS X terminal
> > is very incomplete.  Using the xterm they ship with their port of X works
> > much, much better.
> >
> > From: Bug-ncurses <bug-ncurses-bounces+herbie_robinson=address@hidden>
> > On Behalf Of Dan Gookin
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 6:52 PM
> > To: Bryan Christ <address@hidden>
> > Cc: address@hidden
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Strange OSX behavior
> >
> > [EXTERNAL SENDER: This email originated from outside of Stratus
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> > Bryan,
> >
> > I have no idea what you’re reffing to, though I admire your technical
> > knowledge and pluck. Often I’ve found that running code on iTerm instead of
> > the OS X terminal application yields more predictable results. FWIW.
> >
> > Best,
> > DAN
> >
> > > On Jun 5, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Bryan Christ <address@hidden<mailto:
> > address@hidden>> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is a bit off topic so forgive me but it's the only place I know
> > where experts on the terminal live :) I've started porting my terminal
> > emulation library to OSX and it's been fun to say the least. Now that it
> > finally builds, I see strange behavior with my demo program that I don't
> > see when it runs on Linux or FreeBSD. Output coming from XYZ application
> > running inside the emulator is only echoed when I write data to the slave
> > pty file descriptor (for example holding down the cursor key). If anyone
> > has even a good guess as to what's going on, I would appreciate it.
> > >
> > > --
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