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Re: [Bug-wget] [PATCH] Also remove -d (--debug) from .px tests


From: Micah Cowan
Subject: Re: [Bug-wget] [PATCH] Also remove -d (--debug) from .px tests
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:45:47 -0700
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Steven Schubiger wrote:
> Mike Frysinger <address@hidden> wrote:
>> # HG changeset patch
>> # User Mike Frysinger <address@hidden>
>> # Date 1255483257 14400
>> # Node ID b8a368fe7fed3fcca31cf9102046d188024fbf7d
>> # Parent  ee7b9018a48319f23fa9efd2776b196401ca28ef
>> Also remove -d (--debug) from .px tests.
> 
> Applied as 7fa264687931.

Fine for now. But I'm finding myself increasingly unhappy with -d being
optional (and particularly for tests, they can be very helpful, but I
can always add them on a temporary basis for misbehaving tests). Hardly
anyone takes advantage of its optionality, and when it does, my
experience is that users are peeved when it's been disabled and they
must rebuild (Gentoo). There is seriously useful information that is
often difficult to obtain by other means: in particular, when you're
"recursing" a site, but wget doesn't give you anything but the first
page. Is it in the robots.txt? Does it have a no-follow? Is there a
subtle difference in hostname you're missing? Did it unexpectedly fail
to match your accept/reject rules? Did wget for some reason even fail to
see it? etc.

OTOH, I'll concede that there's plenty of info in --debug that's not
useful to the typical user. Perhaps it would be well to split a few
things off of --debug... in fact, Tony Lewis was working on something to
emit a list of seen-but-not-followed links at session end; if this were
combined with giving the reasons as well, it could replace that aspect
of --debug's usefulness.

- --
Micah J. Cowan
Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer.
Maintainer of GNU Wget and GNU Teseq
http://micah.cowan.name/
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