Re: [DS-discuss] Re: debian and rms

[Raman.P]

This whole demo-schools project is turning to be
totally useless and yet another fs vs oss kind of
list. 
I didn't see a single effort being made to contact
schools/colleges and seek permission but too many dry
philosophy being talked about. I think there are
hundreds of other lists available where this kind of
discussion can be carried.

Be practical, try to arrange for talk/demo/seminar and
motivate children/students in real life and not in
cyberworld. 

We better close this project if we can't do to
atleaset one demo a month. Let us not think about
whole world, be confined to our neighbourhood
children, and do some real contribution to software
freedom.



Raman.P
--- Ramanan Selvaratnam <address@hidden> wrote: >
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> 
> > 
> >hi
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>'RMS provided us with this update on GNU/LinEx:
> /The
> >>developers told me 
> >>that GNU/LinEx included only free software, but
> >>after this interview was 
> >>published various people have checked it and found
> >>non-free programs in 
> >>it. I therefore cannot recommend GNU/LinEx at
> >>present. I hope that this 
> >>problem will be corrected./'
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >the footnote make
s it even worse. now there is not
> a
> >single distro he can recommend to anyone. 
> >
> yep. not single stable distro AFAIK.
> 
> >i have seen
> >people moving into debian because they want to be
> more
> >associated with ' free software' even when it
> doesnt
> >make sense at all. 
> >
> >
> >there was issues in the interview that rms didnt
> >correct up later. 
> >
> >1) rms mentioned that gnu doesnt link with debian
> >because of non free software descriptions in
> debian. a
> >quick search found that it was not true.
> >
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/lo7o
> 
> lists the output of search by the description 'java'
> in
> distibution: stable;  section:non-free
> 
> >
> >2) rms didnt bother to mention that debian is as
> >paranoid about non free software a much as rms and
> >goes to the extension of clearly segregating
> between
> >them and has 'vrms' package would check for the
> >existance of non free software in the system. This
> is
> >as far as things can get for now
> >
> >lets take up this scenario
> >
> >I couldnt get good enough replacements for java,
> flash
> >and shockwave stuff on the net. I wouldnt mind
> >
> for both flash and shockwave there are binaries to
> download and 
> installation instructions on the web.
> Search through [google.com/linux].
> 
> >installing a flash player plugin for my aunt if she
> >wants to send a e greeting to her cousin in Linux.
> I
> >wouldnt do it personally though. I would send a
> >personal email instead :-). i cant really talk
> about
> >freedom with souce code to my aunt can i?
> >
> I am constantly surprised by the varied variety of
> fans of the 
> principals behind free software.
> Have you discussed the underlying issues with her?
> 
> Best regards,
> Ramanan
> 
> 
> 
> 
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