Re: GNUstep and Cocoa#???

[Riccardo]

Hello,

On Saturday, August 14, 2004, at 05:44 AM, Gregory John Casamento wrote:

> I'm neither for it, nor against it, I'm just interested in hearing 
> opinions.
> Any thoughts?

Well, my personal opinion is that I don't see a reason for "#". I have 
also attended a big conference by Mr. Miller himself about it and 
although it has some pretty interesting ideas, if you reduce it at the 
bare bones it is just a microsoft attempt to combat java.

A second thought would be that maintaining bindings of gnustep with c# 
would be a lot of effort and, at least up to know, C# is fortunately not 
a diffused language.

And we have little resources already...


If I had to choose other languages to support with gnustep/cocoa (which 
would be a very good idea: many programmers don't like to be "coerced" 
do obj-c") I would  think of

1. Java
2. C++
3. Python
4. Smalltalk

Not that I endorse any of the above languages, but they are more or less 
widely used. So think with the mind of a  programmer already knowing one 
or more languages choosing a GUI toolkit for example...
From what I know C++ isn't flexible enough to be feasible, but maybe 
some wrapper classes could be done?
Java is interesting because it is one of the widest spread languages 
used in professional environments too and Cocoa has (or had?) support 
for it too, so it is feasible. And Jigs is "almost there".
Python is rumored to be quite popular in the free world. I personally 
don't know it but from what I was told it could potentially support 
quite some OOP stuff and so be able to bind to *step.


But for now I'd prefer a better gnustep, especially the gui, than some 
exotic stuff. We don't have resources... Until Cocoa supports Obj-C and 
doesn't switch to some crap we are on the safe side.

-Riccardo