Re: Known MacOS programmer about WO/EOF

[Helge Hess]

On Mar 30, 2005, at 18:28, Armando Di Cianno wrote:
> > Then I recommend to fix it wrt Apple X11, I'm pretty sure this kind  
> > of setup is very common for Apple guys trying to evaluate GNUstep. In  
> > the same run Windows X11 servers like Exceed should be checked. Same  
> > reason (I very well remember having reported Exceed issues some 6 or  
> > 7 years ago ...).
> ... I've accessed GNUstep apps from an OS X desktop whilst using -back
> Xlib -- Art always caues issues for me remotely.  Is this, maybe,
> what's happening to you?  You probably have tried this though ...

Maybe, I have no idea. I don't care about backends, I care about  
applications. Installed one (which was easy) and it doesn't work.
That is exactly what leads to bad user reviews.


BTW: I have to adjust my Debian "ease of use" report. Just tried at a  
different machine and applications don't even start:
---snip---
/usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Applications/ProjectCenter.app/ProjectCenter:  
relocation error:  
/usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Library/Bundles/libgnustep-back.bundle/./ 
libgnustep-back: undefined symbol: FTC_Manager_Lookup_Size
---snap---
Maybe easy to work around for a core GNUstep developer knowing all the  
details, unsolvable for me who just wants to check out Gorm and  
ProjectCenter.

Call me an idiot, but GNUstep is the first Debian package I've ever  
seen with linking errors.
Just tried the competition: "apt-get install qt3-designer". Works  
without flaws (well it works like it is supposed to, it certainly has  
flaws ;-).


Honestly, you need to fix/add packaging to get better reviews.  
Unfortunately this is a _lot_ of boring work.

Greets,
  Helge
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