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Re: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which O
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Ivan Vučica |
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Re: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?) |
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Wed, 27 Nov 2019 16:23:10 +0000 |
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 3:59 PM Max Chan <xcvista@me.com> wrote:
>
> Well if we are using OpenGL, since almost all other OpenGL related code is in
> CoreAnimation, and it is OpenGL that actually opens the window for us in a
> system agnostic manner, we might as well.
We are not using OpenGL and it has not been a requirement for -gui.
In fact, even with CAAppKitBridge, unless you set wantsLayer to YES,
you will not get an OpenGL context or window created.
CA depends on Opal, but the rest of -gui has no reason to depend on it
-- you can use CARenderer + NSOpenGLContext and create CALayers by
hand *today*, no integration work necessary. You can keep using Cairo
backend.
Even if we switch to Opal backend as the default or even only backend,
there's *no* requirement for CA or OpenGL. Platforms where OpenGL is
not available (but where Cairo works, e.g. on top of X11) would
*still* be well supported with Opal. (Problems would arise only on
platforms where users use other backends.)
So... where do you see that we depend on Core Animation in a way where
we *have* to *require* OpenGL, and where it would be appropriate to
open a window inside CA (as of today)? If anything, this would still
remain functionality in a separate library with platform-specific and
window-server specific implementations. CA implementation itself is
not the right place.
> (CoreAnimation may end up containing a complete set of Objective-C binding of
> OpenGL API in it...)
Why? CA just uses C API anyway, with thin wrappers for shaders and
(IIRC) textures. Objective-C is still C.
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- Re: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?), Ivan Vučica, 2019/11/27
- 回复: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?), Max Chan, 2019/11/27
- Re: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?), Ivan Vučica, 2019/11/27
- 回复: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?), Max Chan, 2019/11/27
- Re: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?), Ivan Vučica, 2019/11/27
- 回复: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?), Max Chan, 2019/11/27
- Re: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?),
Ivan Vučica <=
- 回复: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?), Max Chan, 2019/11/27
- Re: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?), Ivan Vučica, 2019/11/27
- 回复: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?), Max Chan, 2019/11/27
- Re: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?), Ivan Vučica, 2019/11/27
- 回复: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?), Max Chan, 2019/11/27
- Re: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?), Ivan Vučica, 2019/11/27
- 回复: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?), Max Chan, 2019/11/27
- Re: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?), Ivan Vučica, 2019/11/27
- Re: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?), David Chisnall, 2019/11/27
- 回复: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?), Max Chan, 2019/11/27