Re: placeholder for eev-beginner

[Quiliro Ordóñez]

El 2022-07-08 11:02, Eduardo Ochs escribió:
> On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 at 21:43, Quiliro Ordóñez <quiliro@riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hello.
>>
>> I am not sure if I have asked this before.  But here it goes.  Sorry if
>> it was asked previously.  Anyway, I don't think that I have used this
>> perspective before on this problem.
>>
>> Every time I start eev-beginner, I have to re-read everything again
>> because I do not remember where my place is from last time.  Of course
>> that every time I can understand better and review much quicker what I
>> had covered before.  But I would like to have a command or a link which
>> would hold the place I was at when I close (find-eev-quick-intro)
>> without having to do it every time.  I remember that the Emacs tutorial
>> has such functionality.  Is it possible to do it also for eev' tutorial?
> 
> 
> Hi Quiliro,
> 
> I prefer to do these things by creating sexps. So, instead of having
> blackbox-ish code that would save and restore the position in a
> tutorial, I have functions - the don't feel blackbox-ish to me - that
> let me create a hyperlink to a section of a tutorial with just a few
> keystrokes...
> 
> There are several ways to create links like these ones, that point to
> sections of tutorials...
> 
>   (find-eev-quick-intro "4.1. `find-here-links'")
>   (find-refining-intro "1. Pos-spec-lists")
>   (find-refining-intro "2. Refining hyperlinks")
>   (find-saving-links-intro "3.3. Invisible text")
> 
> Note the their htmlizations are:
> 
>   http://angg.twu.net/eev-intros/find-eev-quick-intro.html#4.1
>   http://angg.twu.net/eev-intros/find-refining-intro.html#1
>   http://angg.twu.net/eev-intros/find-refining-intro.html#2
>   http://angg.twu.net/eev-intros/find-saving-links-intro.html#3.3
> 
> The most basic way, obviously, is "type the whole hyperlink by hand".
> A slightly less basic way is "use find-here-links - i.e., `M-h M-h' -
> to create a hyperlink to the current intro, and then add the
> pos-spec-list by hand (maybe using cut and paste)". The BEST way is
> to use the ideas here
> 
>   (find-saving-links-intro "3.3. Invisible text")
> 
> to refine the hyperlink with fewer keystrokes. There's a video about
> that here:
> 
>   (find-1stclassvideo-links "2021workshop4")
> 
>   Title: Invisible text (workshop 2021-dec-04)
>   MP4:   http://angg.twu.net/eev-videos/2021-workshop-4.mp4
>   YT:    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhpHHjBUxv8
>   Page:  http://angg.twu.net/2021-workshop.html
>   Comment: Very bad - don't watch!!!
>   Date:    2021dec04
>   Length:  5:42
> 
>   Play:  (find-2021workshop4video "0:00")
> 
> In the months after recording that video I thought that it was very
> bad... then I watched it again and thought that it was quite good.

LOL.  Nice story.  I agree that it is a good video.  I have to watch it
several times to be able to reproduce it without consulting the video.

> I hope that helps - eev becomes much easier to use when we learn how
> to create links to sections of tutorials!

Thank you very much for the information.  It was very useful.  In fact,
eev is much easier each time I use it.  Your work and your guidance has
been very useful.

>   [[]] =),

What does this mean?

In conclusion, I must make a file with the hyperlinks.  There is no way
to recover the place that I last left the files that I have visited and
open theme there the next time I open them.  I still have to open my
hyperlink file fist and then go to the files from there.  Is that
correct?

How can I make a file with those links be modified with the data of
point of the file which I am closing?  Then, when I open that same file,
the link file would be consulted and it would place point on the place
where I last left that file.  Is that possible?