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bug#51146: closed (29.0.50; file-notify-add-watch not reporting changes


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Subject: bug#51146: closed (29.0.50; file-notify-add-watch not reporting changes of files)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 06:54:02 +0000

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--- Begin Message --- Subject: 29.0.50; file-notify-add-watch not reporting changes of files Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 01:16:50 -0300
Hi all,

the docstring for file-notify-add-watch states:
   
    If FILE is a directory, ‘change’ watches for file creation or
    deletion in that directory.  This does not work recursively.

OTOH the elisp documentation in [1] states:

     If file is a directory, changes for all files in that directory
     will be notified. This does not work recursively.

So the statements seem contradictory regarding the notification of
changes in the contents of the files (not their creation or
deletion). In the most lenient interpretation, the docstring may be
considered silent in this regard.

This little experiment shows that, at least in my setup, a change in the
content of a file is not notified:

    (defun my-watcher (event) (message "Not in my watch: %s" event))

    (file-notify-add-watch "/tmp/some-dir" '(change) #'my-watcher)

Then:

    touch /tmp/some-dir/x => Not in my watch: (18 created /tmp/some-dir/x)
    echo dsds > /tmp/some-dir/x => Nothing
    rm  /tmp/some-dir/x => Not in my watch: (18 deleted /tmp/some-dir/x)

If instead I track "/tmp/some-dir/x":

    echo dsds > /tmp/some-dir/x =>
        Not in my watch: (20 changed /tmp/some-dir/x)

So according to the elisp manual this is a bug, but according to the
docstring it seemingly isn't. I'm with the manual in this one.

Best regards,
Carlos

[1] 
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/File-Notifications.html

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--- Begin Message --- Subject: Re: bug#51146: 29.0.50; file-notify-add-watch not reporting changes of files Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 08:53:11 +0200 User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux)
Version: 28.1

Carlos Pita <carlosjosepita2@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Michael,

Hi Carlos,

>> I will adapt the docstring of file-notify-add-watch as well as the elisp
>> manual accordingly.
>
> Thanks, this should be enough, it's clear from the above that there's
> only so much emacs can do in order to pull off the illusion of a
> common interface.

Thanks for the feedback, I'm closing the bug.

> Best regards,
> Carlos

Best regards, Michael.


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