Re: use-package.el -> Emacs core

[Evgeny Panasyuk]

10.11.2015 16:06, Oleh Krehel:

> > > We should encourage the core Elisp to be simple to learn, because it
> > > is actually very simple.  Not anymore so with macros like `cl-loop',
> > > `pcase' and `use-package'.  They are powerful, but /they are their own
> > > language/ completely separate from Elisp. They have their place, but
> > > in my opinion Elisp newbies should not be encouraged to use them.
> >
> > Sorry, but I cannot agree at all.  That's like saying C++ users should
> > not learn about the standard libraries since they should rather write
> > their own.
>
> No, it's like saying that it's OK for users to write Boost template
> constructs and do QT stuff without learning the basic C++ and STL.

It is OK to use Boost.Function or Boost.Spirit before learning every 
trick used inside. Yes, you have to read their documentation, but the 
same applies "normal/usual" libraries.
Another example is Boost.Preprocessor - it provides high level interface 
and uses a lot of tricks to make it portable across very different 
(buggy) preprocessor implementations - but you can successfully use it 
without knowing every internal trick and detail.