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Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive (Bu
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Charles A. Roelli |
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Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive (Bug#30343) |
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Sun, 25 Mar 2018 22:29:29 +0200 |
> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 18:41:47 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden>
>
> > > . having it in C doesn't make hacking harder because one can always
> > > override functions in Emacs,
> >
> > Good point. Is this written in the Elisp manual anywhere?
>
> Yes, it's documented where we describe 'defun':
>
> Be careful not to redefine existing functions unintentionally.
> ‘defun’ redefines even primitive functions such as ‘car’ without
> any hesitation or notification. Emacs does not prevent you from
> doing this, because redefining a function is sometimes done
> deliberately, and there is no way to distinguish deliberate
> redefinition from unintentional redefinition.
Thanks, this seems correct.
> > I searched for "override functions" and "override primitives" in the
> > index, but did not find a result.
>
> I would index this as "redefining functions", at least in addition to
> "overriding", if not instead of it.
I think both are good, although an index entry for "overriding
functions" could also point to the "advice" documentation, since
"overriding" is a less precise term than "redefining".
> > Instead of defining transpose-regions (and its interactive spec) in
> > Lisp (as the reverted patch did), we could take the current
> > interactive spec of transpose-regions and use that to make a preloaded
> > function named "read-two-regions" in simple.el. That would allow its
> > reuse by other commands, too.
>
> Where would such a function be useful?
Nothing specific comes to mind. There is one pair of commands that
already reads multiple regions: ediff-regions-linewise and -wordwise,
so it's not unlikely that there could be other applications.
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive (Bug#30343), (continued)
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive (Bug#30343), Richard Copley, 2018/03/20
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive (Bug#30343), Eli Zaretskii, 2018/03/21
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive (Bug#30343), Karl Fogel, 2018/03/22
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive (Bug#30343), Eli Zaretskii, 2018/03/22
- Unnecessarily moving stiff between files considered harmful (Was: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive) (Bug#30343), Eli Zaretskii, 2018/03/22
- Re: Unnecessarily moving stiff between files considered harmful, Karl Fogel, 2018/03/23
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive (Bug#30343), Stefan Monnier, 2018/03/22
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive (Bug#30343), Karl Fogel, 2018/03/23
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive (Bug#30343), Charles A. Roelli, 2018/03/25
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive (Bug#30343), Eli Zaretskii, 2018/03/25
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive (Bug#30343),
Charles A. Roelli <=
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive (Bug#30343), Eli Zaretskii, 2018/03/26
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive (Bug#30343), Juri Linkov, 2018/03/28
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive (Bug#30343), Karl Fogel, 2018/03/29
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive (Bug#30343), Eli Zaretskii, 2018/03/29
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b88e7c8: Make transpose-regions interactive (Bug#30343), Stefan Monnier, 2018/03/29