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Re: master 4b79c80c999 1/2: New function 'sort-on'


From: Dmitry Gutov
Subject: Re: master 4b79c80c999 1/2: New function 'sort-on'
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2024 01:37:01 +0200
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On 28/02/2024 09:40, Michael Heerdegen wrote:
Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev> writes:

The other alternative (suggested by Daniel) is to add a yet another
optional argument - whether to do the schwartz transform - so it would
be on the caller to determine whether the accessor is costly enough.

This would be my preferred solution, too

This is not my first choice, but I'd still prefer it over having two
different but very similar functions. sort-on is slower than it has to
be, too.

It could be improved?  How?

Well, 'mapcar' in it allocates a new sequence of length N. The Schwartz transform creates about as many new cons cells too. If the function is made destructive, 'mapcar' becomes unnecessary as the original sequence could be reused - and that is measurably faster, too (when the cost function is simple enough).

And if it's made destructive, it becomes even closer to the current 'sort'. That would mean less justification to keep them as separate functions.

BTW, I wonder how this addition fits into my original suggestion about
sort predicate construction.

Sorry, I either can't find your respective message in this thread, or don't understand the suggestion.

I guess we would want to allow to choose
between using schwartz or not (at each level) in the specification -

I don't know if we really want to (every such knob is a step toward more complex api, and higher odds of user choosing the parameters poorly), but we could indeed try something like that.

which would mean that my approach would build a sort function, not a
sort predicate.  Which also might allow to build more efficient code.

If you mean that your proposed constructed sort function would incorporate the lookup logic (currently supplied with ACCESSOR), then it would incur the same cost that the Schwartz transform is amortizing, wouldn't it? Perhaps some code would help.

Also, if the sort function will be in Lisp (even byte-compiled one), then it will likely have higher overhead than the simple '< or 'string<, for example. And while the cost of the transform is O(N), the comparison function is called O(N*logN) on average.



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