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Re: Writting Greek in Emacs


From: Thanos Apollo
Subject: Re: Writting Greek in Emacs
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2024 23:03:21 +0300

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:


[...]
>
> Our input methods are not carved in stone, so if you think some
> sequences are missing, feel free to submit patches that add them.
> There's no reason to complain about stuff we can easily fix, right?
>

I appreciate all the work it's done with Emacs & the support it
provides.  Do not see this is as complaning, but as "why this is not a
greek-polytonic input method" instead of the word "issues" that I used.

[...]
>
> It could make sense to have a separate Coptic input method.  The fact
> that Greek and Coptic use the same script doesn't mean a single input
> method must support both.  Emacs input methods are specific to
> languages, not to scripts (i.e. Unicode blocks).

Some input methods want to support a mix of both with the addition of
latin characters, others also include japanese characters.  There is
nothing wrong with that, I'm just stating why they should not be
regarded as greek-polytonic.

Most input methods in greek.el except "greek" do not really want to be
Greek but a mixture of different things + Greek to support their authors
use case.  There is no need to change them since they serve their
purpose just fine.

>
>> When GNU Emacs started Greek "polytonic" was the official language.
>
> AFAIK, Greek monotonic was make official around 1984, which is way
> before Emacs started supporting multiple languages (about 12 years
> later) and input methods.

I was born in the 2000s, Emacs is twice my age.  What I meant is within
the Emacs existence the official greek was polytonic & should not be
viewed as an "exotic" input method, but instead similarly to "greek",
since there are people who use it on their day jobs.

polytonic-greek might be the "greek" in the future, that's why we need a
new input method that's compatible with the current "greek".  This way
there won't be complaining if that ever happens.

I'm just trying to help, if I didn't I wouldn't spent any time trying to
explain the current issues & trying to provide solutions.

-- 
Thanos Apollo
https://thanosapollo.org

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