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Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals
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Pip Cet |
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Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals |
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Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:05:51 +0000 |
"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, spd@toadstyle.org,
>> pipcet@protonmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 12:53:33 +0100
>>
>> Executive summary: If a signal interrupts the Emacs thread, and we are
>> "inside MPS", meaning the Emacs threads owns an arena's mutex, the macOS
>> port thread can try to acquire the same mutex and won't get because the
>> Emacs thread that owns it is stopped by the signal.
>
> Are you sure the "because the Emacs thread that owns it is stopped by
> the signal" part is correct? AFAIU, since the macOS port thread is a
> different thread, it tries to take the arena lock, and is simply stuck
> there, waiting for the main thread to release the lock. IOW, this is
> a simple mutex-based synchronization between two threads, that's all:
> one thread takes the lock, the other must wait until the first one
> releases it before it itself can take the lock.
My understanding is that the main thread cannot continue running while
it's waiting for a memory barrier to be removed. What would it use for
the memory values it cannot access?
> Moreover, the main thread is not stopped, it runs the signal handler.
It is stopped, in the signal handler, waiting for the memory barrier to
be removed.
Pip
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, (continued)
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Helmut Eller, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Gerd Möllmann, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Helmut Eller, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Helmut Eller, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Gerd Möllmann, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Gerd Möllmann, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Helmut Eller, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Gerd Möllmann, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Gerd Möllmann, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals,
Pip Cet <=
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Pip Cet, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Helmut Eller, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Helmut Eller, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Pip Cet, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Gerd Möllmann, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Helmut Eller, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Pip Cet, 2024/12/30
- Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals, Gerd Möllmann, 2024/12/30