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Re: [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries


From: Ihor Radchenko
Subject: Re: [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading?
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2023 08:59:21 +0000

Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:

> 3.
>
> istr loading org-id is or was what enables org-ids?  i'd rather have
> org-id work by default.  OR maybe require activating.

org-id is mostly fine, except that it (1) adds a new link type. (2) adds
a hook that saves ids before exiting Emacs.
In general, it is not too different in its design to other link type
providers. The only difference is better support in other Org core
libraries, but it only plays when a user customized org-id to take
preference over other built-in link types - not a problem for users who
do not use org-id.

> 4.
>
> idk if related, but some settings in org must be done before loading.
> i'd want a guideline in which, where possible, settings can be done
> after loading.  this is because the user might need to go through
> contortions in .emacs.  a user can do with-eval-after-load, but
> with-eval-before-load sounds radically grotesque.

Please, list the settings you have in mind. Some things, like
configuring Org syntax, must be loaded before Org because we have no
other way around.

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Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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