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Libtextstyle in Jitter and Poke: sub-package mode and CSS installation


From: Luca Saiu
Subject: Libtextstyle in Jitter and Poke: sub-package mode and CSS installation
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 07:56:57 +0100
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Hello Bruno and José.

After committing the Jitter API change for José the time has finally
come for me to play with libtextstyle.

(José, if the libtextstyle integration tends to be quick as well I
will port Poke to the new Jitter right after it, to avoid two unrelated
API changes in quick succession.  Otherwise I will handle Poke first,
and libtextstyle later).

My simple tests work with no problems, and the basic integration of
libtextstyle in Jitter seems easy as well, as expected.  Anyway I
have run across an issue I had not anticipated:

Jitter can now be used in "sub-package mode" rather than as a
dependency, in the style of Gnulib.  The particular issue I had
to resolve is explained here:
  http://ageinghacker.net/talks/#ghm-2019-talk
Poke will use Jitter this way.
In "sub-package mode" the Jitter sources are only distributed as a
subdirectory of some other package; the Jitter C-generating program
is only used at build time, if at all, and the Jitter runtime library
is built statically and not installed.  Nothing whatsoever from
Jitter is installed in fact, and this is intentional: from the point
of view of a user who is interested in, say, Poke, the Jittery VM is
just part of the hidden internal machinery.  After the super-package
is installed its source code can be deleted, and Jitter with it.

Where shall I put the default CSS file for Jitter, then?  A
workaround I can imagine is generating some default CSS into a
temporary file, at startup, and then loading when opening a
libtextstyle stream.  But this is horrible.

What about the possibility of reading CSS from a constant string in
memory?

What would you suggest me to do in this case, Bruno?


I am closing with some remarks about Jitter which will be mostly
interesting to José.

A program including a Jittery VM can print exactly two kind of
outputs benefiting from libtextstyle:

* VM programs in symbolic form
* disassemblies.

Both require a surprisingly simple and uniform styling, as long as you
do not want to decorate VM program literals in a complex way; say, in
a Lisp VM, something like

  push #(aa 11)

where the vector delimiters and the vector elements elements are all
printed in different styles.  For the time being José has told me he
is not interested in that.

Excluding this advanced printing of structured literal data, the user of
a Jittery VM has to customize the style for a fixed number of entities,
independent from the VM:

* whitespace;
* comments;
* addresses;
* VM routine labels;
* VM instruction names;
* VM instruction literals [!];
* VM registers;
* VM stacks, possibly, if they can occur as VM instruction operands
  in the future;
* hardware instructions as bytes;
* hardware instructions in textual form [I would not bother distinguishing
                                         even mnemonics from operands, as
                                         those and short enough anyway].

I may be forgetting some cases, but nothing else seems fundamentally
different.

Notice that [!] is the only case where the user can meaningfully define
a custom printer.  Again, as long as we do not print structured literals
with internal styling, this is trivial: the author of a VM does not even
need to know the details of styling.  She will just call C functions to
print text and numbers, in a context where the style has already been
set.  These functions will be provided by Jitter, and their internal
definition will use libtextstyle.

Do you think I am missing some point?  Is the API I am describing
expressive enough for you?

The way you are styling output in Poke itself, while nice and
potentially involved, to me appears unrelated to the VM.  I believe the
Jitter part to be quite easy, apart from the problem above.

Thanks,

-- 
Luca Saiu
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I support everyone's freedom of mocking any opinion or belief, no
matter how deeply held, with open disrespect and the same unrelented
enthusiasm of a toddler who has just learned the word "poo".

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