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Re: [ESPResSo-users] Bjerrum Length for Explicit Solvent
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Stefan Kesselheim |
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Re: [ESPResSo-users] Bjerrum Length for Explicit Solvent |
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Sun, 6 Oct 2013 11:43:22 +0200 |
Hi,
On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Peter Košovan <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> To this end, I do not see inconsistency between what Stefan and Marcus have
> written.
To make it clear:
In my opinion the Bjerrum length can not be measured, and is not a physical
quantity. It is a theoretical concept that is used to combine measurements of
the bulk (!) dielectric permittivity and the temperature of a medium into a
single quantity that is helpful to keep formulas brief.
Markus' opinion is that the Bjerrum length can be measured: You use to charged
particles of known charge, hold them in appropriate tweezers (that can be
tricky though) measure the force as a function of distance, integrate that
force and where this integrated curve cuts the $k_B T$ line you read of the
Bjerrum length.
Both definitions are possible, but not compatible. The first is a (bulk)
material property at a particular temperature, the second is a property of ion
pairs in a particular medium at a particular temperature.
Interestingly in the second definition the salt concentration will play a role
was well.
Cheers
Stefan
- [ESPResSo-users] Bjerrum Length for Explicit Solvent, Jezreel Castillo, 2013/10/05
- Re: [ESPResSo-users] Bjerrum Length for Explicit Solvent, Markus Deserno, 2013/10/05
- Re: [ESPResSo-users] Bjerrum Length for Explicit Solvent, Stefan Kesselheim, 2013/10/05
- Re: [ESPResSo-users] Bjerrum Length for Explicit Solvent, Jezreel Castillo, 2013/10/05
- Re: [ESPResSo-users] Bjerrum Length for Explicit Solvent, Markus Deserno, 2013/10/05
- Re: [ESPResSo-users] Bjerrum Length for Explicit Solvent, Stefan Kesselheim, 2013/10/06
- Re: [ESPResSo-users] Bjerrum Length for Explicit Solvent, Peter Košovan, 2013/10/06
- Re: [ESPResSo-users] Bjerrum Length for Explicit Solvent,
Stefan Kesselheim <=
- Re: [ESPResSo-users] Bjerrum Length for Explicit Solvent, Ulf Schiller, 2013/10/06
- Re: [ESPResSo-users] Bjerrum Length for Explicit Solvent, Ulf Schiller, 2013/10/06
- Re: [ESPResSo-users] Bjerrum Length for Explicit Solvent, Markus Deserno, 2013/10/06
- Re: [ESPResSo-users] Bjerrum Length for Explicit Solvent, Stefan Kesselheim, 2013/10/06
- Re: [ESPResSo-users] Bjerrum Length for Explicit Solvent, Markus Deserno, 2013/10/06