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[Fenfire-dev] Web pointers related to Fenfire
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Benja Fallenstein |
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[Fenfire-dev] Web pointers related to Fenfire |
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Sat, 27 Nov 2004 05:10:56 +0100 |
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Some stuff I've recently come across that may have an impact on Fenfire.
Javolution, a library for fast programming in Java -- support for
programming that avoids garbage collection, programmed entirely in Java:
http://javolution.org/
This may be useful as a library to base Fenfire on, because to perform
well enough for the desktop we need to optimize a lot.
Monotone, a version control system that shares a lot of ideas with Storm:
http://www.venge.net/monotone/
Not sure what the impact on Fenfire & Storm is, if any, but it's good to
know. Lots of ideas that sound very familiar :)
Laszlo, an XML-based UI language that is compiled into a Flash file by a
web server, for writing "cinematic" Web applications:
http://www.laszlosystems.com/
(you need Flash to look at the demos)
It is kind of hard to explain *why*, but I think that this is quite
important to know. Couple of reasons:
- I want Fenfire to look that good.
- It interpolates, and the UI demos make use of that a lot. To a degree,
the UI is reminiscent of what I want for FF.
- The business story is that companies can make more useful *and*
better-looking Web apps with it. I generally find "desktop widgets make
better webapps" hard to swallow -- the html page model seems much easier
for users. But the demo they have, browsing Amazon music, looks like it
has a lot of promise, making e.g. shopping cart management much easier.
- It works on the Web, based on the idea that web apps are much more
successful, for many businesses, than downloading apps.
- It does *not* have a flexible connective structure, nor even much of a
concept of browsing from place to place -- although the Amazon demo uses
that concept. Fenfire could add a lot beyond Laszlo here.
So I see the relevance somewhere along the lines of--
- Figure out how to make FF look better :)
- Make applets better supported? I.e., provide a solution similar to
Laszlo where people can provide a browsable FF structure/application as
an applet.
I think that Laszlo is in some sense a competitor to Libvob/Fenfire,
even though they have such different goals. Or maybe put it like this:
Being a competitor to Laszlo should perhaps be a goal for Libvob/Fenfire...
All just thinking at the moment, of course.
Cheers,
- Benja
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